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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Still, it seems to me, something about compassion and indifference can be learned by looking closer to home. We know that almost no one in the United States protested when Japanese-Americans were rounded up during World War II. And while it is important to stress that the treatment of the Japanese-Americans was in no way comparable to the treatment of the German Jews, a small thought experiment does not seem out of order here. What if word had begun seeping back that Japanese-American children were being murdered in the internment camps? How many of the good people of California would have taken time out from their busy and war-burdened lives to register a protest, or even to learn the facts of the matter? Some, to be sure, and undoubtedly a great many more than the number of Germans who worried about the fate of the Jews. A democratic ethos does make a difference. But can anyone say with confidence that a significant portion of the public would have behaved compassionately? I for one would not bet the ranch on the kindness of strangers.

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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    5th refusal for a link.

    You claimed to have a link, I called you on it, you refused to provide the link. I think it's pretty obvious that you're a liar.
    I have posted links. You have never backed up anything you claim in defense of and justifications for the death camp German SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    you have to remember that this was the 1940s. unless they lived in a big city, access to newspapers and media was very limited. Hell, half my neighbors could disappear overnight and I wouldn't notice.
    There was incessant propaganda by radio, newspapers, posters, movies and every form of media.

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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I would imagine, that unless they were involved with the military or they lived in close proximity to one of the camps, the average german civilian knew little about the holocaust at the time.
    This does not make any sense and has been disproven. The core of the German politics and culture had become built around hatred of Jews, this was promoted and advertised in every form, and was even element of the holocaust other than the actual means they were killed by.

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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I have posted links. You have never backed up anything you claim in defense of and justifications for the death camp German SS.
    6th refusal to post the link. You're either ridiculously lazy or you made it up. Maybe even both.
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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    This does not make any sense and has been disproven. The core of the German politics and culture had become built around hatred of Jews, this was promoted and advertised in every form, and was even element of the holocaust other than the actual means they were killed by.
    Yes, Hitler made it very obvious that it was the evil Jews who were creating most of the problems in the German culture and that created an environment of tolerance within the German culture for the persecution of Jews. Our own culture does not easily tolerate physical persecution--though some would suggest that it is happening anyway--but Obama and his ilk are quick to blame Tea Partiers, and the evil rich, and guns and Bibles, conservative talk shows and media etc. for the problems in our own society, and that helps create, with some, a culture of contempt for such groups or personalities. (And yes, those on the right tend to demonize aspects of the left also.)

    But whatever created the climate of persecution of the Jews in Germany ended almost 70 years ago. That means that the youngest of the three individual mentioned in the OP would have been 17 years old and the oldest 25 years old when the war ended. Without substantial proof that these individuals willingly and maliciously participated in the torture, murder, and other mistreatment of the Jews, I simply can find no justification for prosecuting them now.
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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    No, what you don't seem to understand is that they don't have any evidence that these people did anything wrong at all. They're trying them solely because they were stationed in Ausschwitz. That'd be like you getting stationed at Ft. Bragg, then some group of soldiers at Ft. Bragg murder a bunch of people. Then 60 years later, poof, the government calls you up and tries you for being an accomplice to murder simply because you were also stationed in the same place. That's insanely ridiculous.

    From the article:


    And by the way, insubordination in the German military was met with a bullet to the head. So that means if you get stationed at Auschwitz you either die or get charged with murder, there is no 3rd option. That's irrational.

    I have this crazy notion that people should be tried for their actions, not their inactions.

    Also from this link: Auschwitz concentration camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    - There were 7,000 German soldiers stationed in Auschwitz.
    - Only about 120 of which operated the gas chambers.

    So all 7,000 of those soldiers stationed there, the cooks, medics, paperwork clerks, etc. etc., all deserve to be brought up on murder charges?
    Yeah you provided a link. And after reading that link I say all the cooks, secretaries, medics, paperwork clerks, etc should be brought up on accessory to murder charges.
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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    Yeah you provided a link. And after reading that link I say all the cooks, secretaries, medics, paperwork clerks, etc should be brought up on accessory to murder charges.
    So all of those cooks, secretaries, medics and paperwork clerks should have just put a bullet in their brains when they got stationed there? That's the only way they could've avoided murder charges in your world?
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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    So all of those cooks, secretaries, medics and paperwork clerks should have just put a bullet in their brains when they got stationed there? That's the only way they could've avoided murder charges in your world?
    They should've fomented rebellion.
    Islam is an antiquated religion and needs to either modernize with the times or be completely eradicated.
    There are two types of Muslims, terrorists, and their enablers. They need to fix that if they want to be part of civilized society.

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