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This makes me sick

Should Staff Sergeant Cherish Byres get a dsihonorable discharge

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Zyphlin said:
I'm guessing Calamity must be one to tell blacks to "move on" when talking about slavery sinc ethat was even more than 40 years ago.
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Geeeeeezus dood. Come on! How long do you expect some people to pretend to care about the military after all?
 
Zyphlin said:
I'm guessing Calamity must be one to tell blacks to "move on" when talking about slavery sinc ethat was even more than 40 years ago.
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I don't lose much sleep over slavery or the Civil War...except to think both were a colossal waste of time, money and lives.
 
Dirt Racer said:
I see that symbol as something this country should and does show great respect for. I would insist on anyone wearing the uniform of a U.S. Service person would show GREAT respect for it. Especially considering it could be their ass on the line someday. This symbol helps keep fresh in the mind that we still have service members that are missing in action. In fact the president is currently looking into trading some GITMO prisoners of war for one of our own at this very moment.

I think punishment is in line. Discharge shouldn't be one of those punishments. I would however believe required study of that symbol and some volunteer work is mandatory so this Airmen doesn't make this same mistake twice.

I am willing to give the benefit of a doubt that just because she wears the uniform doesn't automatically give her the understanding of what the symbol means. What better way to help her learn than to have her participate with the group? She might end up being the biggest advocate for the cause.
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You are far more forgiving than I am. To me the pic shows disrespect for those who came before you and you should not be a member of our military.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
You are a good example of an entitled ungrateful spoiled American child. God help us.
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No. I just don't live in the past...and, I certainly do not glorify war.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
I guess this pic has gone viral. It makes me want to vomit and this so called lady needs to be dishonorably discharged IMO.

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It happened three years ago. Chill out. If incompetent officers and asshole politicians could be removed half as easily as you are suggesting this woman be removed from her job the world would be a much better place.
 
Ad_Captandum said:
One that doesn't spend all their time obsessing over the military perhaps?
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Wouldn't hurt you to be a bit thankful to your elders in the military either.

"The Scots played an important role in the Allied victory - from the battlefields of North Africa to life on the home front.

As Britain prepared for war, the heavy industries of the Clyde produced ships, guns, engines and munitions. Six weeks into World War II, the first shots of the air war over Britain were fired above the Firth of Forth as Scots pilots battled the Luftwaffe.

The HMS Royal Oak at Scapa Flow and the SS Athenia were sunk by Nazi U-boats. Hundreds of lives were lost.

Scots children were evacuated as people waited for the bombing to begin. The Luftwaffe bombed Clydebank, Glasgow, Greenock, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee - thousands of civilians died and tens of thousands of men, women and children were made homeless.

Members of the Polish army, navy and air force, stationed in Scotland, fired on the Nazi bombers and fought in the Battle of Britain.

World War II (1939-45) - 20th and 21st centuries - Scotland's History
 
sawyerloggingon said:
If Abu Ghrabi was Bush's fault because of the "tone he set" then I guess the tone obama sets could be responsible for this. Good catch.
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yes, because the conduct of a single airman is so identical to the behavior of a military command at a secret prison in an occupied country. great comparison. it serves you 'well'
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Wouldn't hurt you to be a bit thankful to your elders in the military either.

"The Scots played an important role in the Allied victory - from the battlefields of North Africa to life on the home front.

As Britain prepared for war, the heavy industries of the Clyde produced ships, guns, engines and munitions. Six weeks into World War II, the first shots of the air war over Britain were fired above the Firth of Forth as Scots pilots battled the Luftwaffe.

The HMS Royal Oak at Scapa Flow and the SS Athenia were sunk by Nazi U-boats. Hundreds of lives were lost.

Scots children were evacuated as people waited for the bombing to begin. The Luftwaffe bombed Clydebank, Glasgow, Greenock, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee - thousands of civilians died and tens of thousands of men, women and children were made homeless.

Members of the Polish army, navy and air force, stationed in Scotland, fired on the Nazi bombers and fought in the Battle of Britain.

World War II (1939-45) - 20th and 21st centuries - Scotland's History
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In fact, I worked for the Royal Navy for several years -- and it was just that. Work. I am patriotic, I love Britain (who wouldn't?), and I have plenty of respect for what my country has done, what the military has done, in the past and in the present.

But, having been a part of it, I can tell you -- in an organisation as big as the military, it's absurd to think everyone there is a hero and ought be treated with extreme respect or reverence.

In truth, it's no different from any other job, from being a construction worker to a politician to a teacher -- some of these people are exceptional, some are awful, most are normal.

I find it somewhat worrisome that some Americans worship the military the way I fear you might -- not only is it bizarre, it is actively detrimental to your country and military. If you try to shout down anyone who says anything bad about the military, you're contributing to corruption there.

You don't want that, do you?
 
justabubba said:
yes, because the conduct of a single airman is so identical to the behavior of a military command at a secret prison in an occupied country. great comparison. it serves you 'well'
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What about the other pic I posted?

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Ad_Captandum said:
In fact, I worked for the Royal Navy for several years -- and it was just that. Work. I am patriotic, I love Britain (who wouldn't?), and I have plenty of respect for what my country has done, what the military has done, in the past and in the present.

But, having been a part of it, I can tell you -- in an organisation as big as the military, it's absurd to think everyone there is a hero and ought be treated with extreme respect or reverence.

In truth, it's no different from any other job, from being a construction worker to a politician to a teacher -- some of these people are exceptional, some are awful, most are normal.

I find it somewhat worrisome that some Americans worship the military the way I fear you might -- not only is it bizarre, it is actively detrimental to your country and military. If you try to shout down anyone who says anything bad about the military, you're contributing to corruption there.

You don't want that, do you?
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Worship? NO. Respect and honor? YES!!!
 
Ad_Captandum said:
(I don't think you could say slavery was a waste of money.)

Still abhorrent and awful, though.
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The end result was though...after all, the South was burned to the ground. Colossal disaster.
 
justabubba said:
what about it?
if Obama snapped that photo, then he deserves a lot of blame
and if he didn't, he doesn't
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So the shoe's on the other foot now huh. You libs blamed Abu Ghrabi on Bush but our current breakdown in military decorum is in noooo way obama's fault.:lamo
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Worship? NO. Respect and honor? YES!!!
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Respect the institution, surely, but not everyone in it. You must realise it's an absurd claim to make if you're trying to say everyone in the military is worthy of your respect -- whence come rapists, war criminals, murderers, gang members, etc., that are in the military?

You'll get no argument if you're trying to say the military is an important and vital institution to the continued wellbeing of a nation, and it must be respected for its important role.

But don't say everyone in the military is worthy of respect and honour, for some are clearly not.
 
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