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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You really had no idea what that symbol was? WTF kind of American are you?
    I familiar with the one below. Just looking at that picture it was hard to tell that's what it was.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Theres LOTS of things that happen in the military that goes against what the military is. In my time in, we had people with DUIs, drinking under age, physical assaults, etc. NONE of those things exemplify the military.

    Again, I think she should be punished and a field grade article 15 could do the trick IMO. No, I don't think she should be kicked out.
    Maybe you are right but something about that pic is like a punch in the guts to me.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I am more familiar with the one below. Just looking at that picture it was hard to tell.

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    OK american, sorry I went off on you. It was just so obvious to me and made me so freakin mad that I assumed everyone knew what it was, my mistake.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Maybe you are right but something about that pic is like a punch in the guts to me.
    It is to me too, but then you also have to realize people make mistakes. Sometimes when people do things, they don't think it through. That's what non-judicial punishment is for and is a perfect example that should be done in this case. I'm sure this person thought it was funny at the time, but now greatly regrets it given what she probably knows now. People make mistakes.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    There is a certain amount of decorum that is expected of members of the US Military. The activity shown in the photograph goes well outside the boundaries of that decorum.
    Would that include pissing on bodies of the dead? I'd suggest those who never served are clueless what 'decorum' the military has from time to time.

    That said she appears to be an AF staffer- not really 'military'...

    tacky as hell for sure, but if it makes you want to vomit you should never fly in a jet, ride a roller coaster- hell stay away from the Merry-go-round.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    meh...who cares?
    Who cares? That sort of sentiment shouldn't surprise me from a Liberal like you, but it does most certainly disgust me. Apparently you assume that our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Coastguardsmen and Marines should be allowed to turn the services into little more than frat party keggers where there is no expectation of discipline or military etiquette.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    OK american, sorry I went off on you. It was just so obvious to me and made me so freakin mad that I assumed everyone knew what it was, my mistake.
    Thank you. I knew it was vaguely familiar but it looked a little different in the picture you posted.
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    Re: This makes me sick

    Not to put too fine a point on it but in the military decorum is called military bearing.
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    Re: This makes me sick

    Disrespectful? Yes. Highly in fact. Pretty disgusting behavior for a military person.

    Worth kicking her out over? No.

    Reduction in rank. Possibly.

    Some kind of punishment is surely reasonable. Just not sure how harsh it should be. Certainly not career ending.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Would that include pissing on bodies of the dead?
    Of fellow military personnel, yes. Of the sub-human enemies of this nation, no.

    BTW - My family's military service on this continent ranges from Afghanistan and Iraq all the way back to the day and age where taking scalps of the dead was considered appropriate military decorum, thank you very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    That said she appears to be an AF staffer- not really 'military'...
    If she's wearing a uniform then I would expect her to live up to proper military discipline, regardless of the role she is in.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    tacky as hell for sure, but if it makes you want to vomit you should never fly in a jet, ride a roller coaster- hell stay away from the Merry-go-round.
    I go out of my way not to do those sorts of things. I find no real pleasure in them and more often than not a massive amount of stress.

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