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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Regardless men and women died there during the fight. It was a strategic naval facility that served to base our Pacific fleet assets that were in fact charged with, among other things, protecting the mainland from enemy naval forces. State or not it's value in the defense of our western coast is without question and was instrumental in our eventual offensive to defeat Japan.

    Had the Japanese been able to secure Pearl Harbor and keep our Pacific fleet contained they would have absolutely used it as a base from which to launch naval and air attacks against the U.S. Possibly even a ground offensive, but that would not have had much chance of success.
    Like I said--our men and women should not have been there. We have no business being in the middle of the Pacific, IMO. And, our involvement with the war against Japan back in 41 was stupid. It is what it is though, water under the bridge. But don't expect me to cry a river over those casualties or care about some memorial on Oahu.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Especially since Germany's U-boats were parked off our Eastern shores sinking our Merchant Marines.
    We should have stayed in Isolationist mode and ignored the realities of the world, as some posters do to this very day .
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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    And, our involvement with the war against Japan back in 41 was stupid. It is what it is though, water under the bridge..
    Just as we have no business stopping the madman in North Korea now?
    Even China doesn't know what to do with them.
    Have you seen the latest human rigthts paper on Dennis Rodman's favorite Dear Leader.
    The UN could barely hold its lunch down .
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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Just as we have no business stopping the madman in North Korea now?
    Even China doesn't know what to do with them.
    Have you seen the latest human rigthts paper on Dennis Rodman's favorite Dear Leader.
    The UN could barely hold its lunch down .
    If he sold us oil like the Saudi Monarch or lay down with our corporations to sew gym shoes like the murderous Indonesians, you would barely hear a peep of protest about Kim the Young One. Don't be naive.



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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    So now the OP needs to bring in Jane Fonda and the Noth Vietnamese to make his point. What point was that again sawyer? My older Vietnam buddies still have pics of dead VC heads on their choppers. Do you approve of that for boosting morale also ?
    I carried a pic holding two VC heads in my wallet for years. It made me feel better then but they are in an old cigar box now.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It makes it a "who cares" non-event.
    Not to me it doesn't. The POW's (and other casualties) taken in the Revolutionary, and every battle since, have contributed to our right to say and do stupid things. Forum members are allowed that right. Military members are not.

    It has been a while, but when I was military, we were told often and loudly that while we were wearing the uniform, we were expected to act in a manner not disrespectful to the military, the uniform, or the country. Apparently that is no longer emphasized.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Not to me it doesn't. The POW's (and other casualties) taken in the Revolutionary, and every battle since, have contributed to our right to say and do stupid things. Forum members are allowed that right. Military members are not.

    It has been a while, but when I was military, we were told often and loudly that while we were wearing the uniform, we were expected to act in a manner not disrespectful to the military, the uniform, or the country. Apparently that is no longer emphasized.
    With rape and suicides running rampant in our armed forces, methinks we have bigger concerns than someone slobbering their tongue on a poster.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Especially since Germany's U-boats were parked off our Eastern shores sinking our Merchant Marines.
    In ships filled with war materials to kill Germans.


    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    We should have stayed in Isolationist mode and ignored the realities of the world, as some posters do to this very day .
    The reality of the matter is that it was contrary to US national security interests to enter WWII.

    How many Americans were slaughtered because of FDR? How many were enslaved?

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    What's wrong with it?
    She is in uniform. A Marine would never pose for a picture like this while in uniform.

    If she wasn't in uniform this is not a big deal at all. I don't see this is shocking or earth shattering. I'm really doubting this picture has gone viral but I suppose it depends on what classifies as "viral". I don't think a million people have seen this picture.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Regardless men and women died there during the fight. It was a strategic naval facility that served to base our Pacific fleet assets that were in fact charged with, among other things, protecting the mainland from enemy naval forces. State or not it's value in the defense of our western coast is without question and was instrumental in our eventual offensive to defeat Japan.

    Had the Japanese been able to secure Pearl Harbor and keep our Pacific fleet contained they would have absolutely used it as a base from which to launch naval and air attacks against the U.S. Possibly even a ground offensive, but that would not have had much chance of success.
    Exactly. Japan did not attack Hawaii. They attacked our miitary base in Hawaii. If that does not affect our freedom, very little would.

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