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    Re: This makes me sick

    All the things you mention are not what military bearing is, quite the opposite in fact.
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    Imagine how far back you would have to go with lewd behavior.
    I don't imagine pissing on dead enemy soldiers caused any harm to our World-Wide image huh,
    let alone how many of our soldiers may have died due to more Muslims joining up.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    She is in uniform, so it aint funny.
    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    I'm not sure why, but I think that is funny as hell.

    And don't ask me why I think it is so funny because I don't want to or need to know.

    Sometimes a good laugh should be just left at that.
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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Racer View Post
    Please explain further. Just want to make sure I understand your point.
    Starting in the seventies, and gradually petering out since then, there was an unfounded belief that there are/were large numbers of POWs kept by the Viet Namese after the war and the evil liberals in the USA's government refused to do anything about it and conspired to cover up eexistence of those prisoners. That was what that POW/MIA symbol originally represented for many people, a protest against our government for allegedly refusing to do anything about the those POWs. For others, it was just an expression of mourning and/or support for the families of POWs/MIAs.
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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Starting in the seventies, and gradually petering out since then, there was an unfounded belief that there are/were large numbers of POWs kept by the Viet Namese after the war and the evil liberals in the USA's government refused to do anything about it and conspired to cover up heexistence of those prisoners. That was what that POW/MIA symbol originally represented for many people, a protest against our government for allegedly refusing to do anything about the those POWs. For others, it was just an expression of mourning and/or support for the families of POWs/MIAs.
    Thanks for explaining. I am assuming you are on the side of mourning & support for the families?

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    There is a certain amount of decorum that is expected of members of the US Military. The activity shown in the photograph goes well outside the boundaries of that decorum.
    No, *YOU* expect something that you have no business expecting and you want everyone to abide by your desires.
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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It does serve a purpose though. There needs to be a higher level of discipline in the military than what is found in the majority of the civilian world. While some things are completely idiotic, there are still rules.
    No one said there shouldn't be rules, but we're talking about the merits of a few particular ones. And actually, I disagree about the necessary amount of discipline. Unless the job in question is specifically going into high risk combat zones, there is no more discipline needed to do the same job for the military is there is anywhere else. A military doctor needs no more restrictions on their behavior than a civilian. Nor a technician, a cargo plane pilot, a lawyer, a clerk, or really anything else besides exchanging fire with the enemy, which is becoming a smaller and smaller part of what the military does.

    And there is nothing "dehumanizing" about punishing a person (with a reasonable punishment) for breaking a rule because they did something stupid and what can be viewed as disrespectful.
    I was referring to the whole mentality of strict adherence to command, the "break them down and build them back up" that basic training is notorious for. Going in that direction can be a good thing, but I argue that we're farther than we ought to be.

    It really wouldn't be much different than the civilian world in that aspect. [..] The only difference I see here is because it is a government job and the punishment shouldn't be losing her job for something like this.
    That makes a huge difference. Anything beyond the specific duties that a person is employed to perform shouldn't matter, though. The Chick-Fil-A person's conduct outside of the store shouldn't matter, and most of their conduct unrelated to selling sandwiches shouldn't matter either. Just the same way that this woman's actions besides her duties shouldn't matter. Nor should anyone, every, anywhere, face any kind of punishment for their attitude towards a symbol. That is as un-American as we can possibly get.
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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Racer View Post
    Thanks for explaining. I am assuming you are on the side of mourning & support for the families?
    Yes, it was the conspiracy theories and refusing to heal old wounds that was ridiculous.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Yes, it was the conspiracy theories and refusing to heal old wounds that was ridiculous.
    I understand that and agree and again thanks for clearing that up.

    My hope is that we can bring as many home as possible alive or otherwise during any time we have a battle. I believe the cause deserves a great deal of respect in the fact that today's society easily forgets even something as important as one of our own being left behind. This cause draws attention to that fact and with that symbol most people at least reflect on it. I believe this helps the families know that as a country we have not forgotten the service their loved one gave to this country. We at least owe that to the service member.

    Some ( Not you ) on here have expressed they simply do not care. That's a damn shame. To think that there are people who live in this country and enjoy the freedoms we have do not care that we have service members that are not coming home to their families. They may be locked up in a jail in some country being starved, tortured and they do not care. I just lost a little more hope in this country hearing that. I would think that among everything else in this world we could agree on that.

    Anyway thanks for the response.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    You cannot possibly be that stupid or that ignorant of history. I can only conclude that you are a troll.
    It became a state in 1959. As a territory it's further from LA than is NYC. So, I am not going to lose any sleep over someone attacking a place we should not even be back in 1941.

    And, telling me that us having had a naval base in Hawaii back then somehow assures my freedom today is a bunch of bull****.

    Feel free to disagree.
    Last edited by calamity; 02-19-14 at 06:57 PM.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Yeah the U.S. pretty much stole Hawaii in 1893. It was a very first exercise in overthrowing the government of a sovereign nation. It "legally" became our in 1898 when we annexed it, although the actual Hawaiins didn't want this and I use the term "legally" very loosely.

    Regardless it's value as a strategic naval base is undisputed.
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