Last edited by Hard Truth; 02-19-14 at 05:32 PM.
I was referring to the whole mentality of strict adherence to command, the "break them down and build them back up" that basic training is notorious for. Going in that direction can be a good thing, but I argue that we're farther than we ought to be.And there is nothing "dehumanizing" about punishing a person (with a reasonable punishment) for breaking a rule because they did something stupid and what can be viewed as disrespectful.
That makes a huge difference. Anything beyond the specific duties that a person is employed to perform shouldn't matter, though. The Chick-Fil-A person's conduct outside of the store shouldn't matter, and most of their conduct unrelated to selling sandwiches shouldn't matter either. Just the same way that this woman's actions besides her duties shouldn't matter. Nor should anyone, every, anywhere, face any kind of punishment for their attitude towards a symbol. That is as un-American as we can possibly get.It really wouldn't be much different than the civilian world in that aspect. [..] The only difference I see here is because it is a government job and the punishment shouldn't be losing her job for something like this.
Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.
My hope is that we can bring as many home as possible alive or otherwise during any time we have a battle. I believe the cause deserves a great deal of respect in the fact that today's society easily forgets even something as important as one of our own being left behind. This cause draws attention to that fact and with that symbol most people at least reflect on it. I believe this helps the families know that as a country we have not forgotten the service their loved one gave to this country. We at least owe that to the service member.
Some ( Not you ) on here have expressed they simply do not care. That's a damn shame. To think that there are people who live in this country and enjoy the freedoms we have do not care that we have service members that are not coming home to their families. They may be locked up in a jail in some country being starved, tortured and they do not care. I just lost a little more hope in this country hearing that. I would think that among everything else in this world we could agree on that.
Anyway thanks for the response.
And, telling me that us having had a naval base in Hawaii back then somehow assures my freedom today is a bunch of bull****.
Feel free to disagree.
Last edited by calamity; 02-19-14 at 06:57 PM.
Yeah the U.S. pretty much stole Hawaii in 1893. It was a very first exercise in overthrowing the government of a sovereign nation. It "legally" became our in 1898 when we annexed it, although the actual Hawaiins didn't want this and I use the term "legally" very loosely.
Regardless it's value as a strategic naval base is undisputed.