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    Re: This makes me sick

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    Re: This makes me sick

    I think a dishonorable discharge is too far. If she is still in the military three years after the incident, she's obviously doing something right and must have contributed a lot in her service.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I guess this pic has gone viral. It makes me want to vomit and this so called lady needs to be dishonorably discharged IMO.

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    It's clearly in poor form but I find artificial super-patriotism more distasteful. People who are really 'sick to their stomachs' over a photo like this need to reexamine their priorities in my opinion.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    A dishonorable is about the same thing as the death penalty to the military. I seen exactly one the entire time I was in legal and it was for a guy with a kilo of cocaine on base and a history of bad actions.
    That's what I've heard. I'm not in the military but I have military family and they've said if you are dishonorably discharged you also don't receive any veteran benefits either and it's almost as if you never served in the first place on top of the disgrace of being dishonorably discharged from service. I think doing that to someone over a more immaturely done photo is far too harsh of an action.
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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    In this country we do not elevate symbols over people. Ever. No one has to treat any symbol any specific way. What is truly sickening is the idea that those who are fighting for this country are not entitled to its basic liberties. Even if someone could demonstrate that she intended disrespect toward POWs (which doesn't seem to be the case, she was simply joking around), she is entitled to do that. Unless this is somehow an interference with her duties (which I don't see how it could be), the idea that she should face punishment for exercising her rights as an American is ludicrous.
    It really isn't that simple. As servicemembers, we really do lose certain rights/privileges when it comes to how it may reflect upon the military. It would be one thing if she did something like this out of uniform, but quite another to do it in uniform and post it publicly. There are actually rules that we must follow in the military regarding respect to certain symbols and traditions, particularly when it comes to while we are wearing the uniform. While some suggestions on what her punishment should be are way overboard for the offense, it is not wrong to expect her to be punished for her actions here. It simply should not be a harsh punishment at all. Heck it is even something that could be handled at a lower level than NJP.
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    Re: This makes me sick

    What was her intent? Was she purposely engaging in behavior meant to dishonor POW/MIA's? Or was she making a bad joke? I can't help but shake my head at all the self-righteous individuals in this thread who've never committed a days service to their nation pretending that they have some ability to read the mind of a troop or make intelligent comparisons about what type of conduct actually goes on while in service. This? It's in really bad taste. But it's nothing compared to a lot of other things many of us have seen tolerated by military leadership. Nothing.

    Summary Article 15 is probably appropriate. This isn't even close to some of the heinous **** I've seen in the military, things done by service members in uniform that never get addressed because "hey **** happens sometimes." You don't throw away all the good service she has given, the money spent training her, and her expertise and future contributions to this nation over something like this.

    And to you stupid mother****ers who keep puking the term "liberal" as some military hating pejorative...get over yourself. You look like ****ing morons when you do it.
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    Re: This makes me sick

    Really dumb behavior for the airman to do, but not enough to be kicked out of the military. I think she should be disciplined and her actions put into her record. Could be a career ending thing in the long run, or maybe just a dumb mistake and she might be able to redeem herself over time through good performance reviews and conduct.

    Now if it were that she was an officer I might be inclined to feel differently about it, as I would put a greater responsibility on those tasked with being in leadership roles.

    Personally, I think her behavior is offensive as hell. But I also understand that young people do stupid things sometimes, and it important to view those individuals within a context that includes a totality of their service. This is black-mark, but just one as far as we know.

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I guess this pic has gone viral. It makes me want to vomit and this so called lady needs to be dishonorably discharged IMO.

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    What she did was stupid and childish but no she should not be discharged if she otherwise has a good record
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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I'd hit it!!!

    Too soon?

    Anyhow...

    My thoughts on this topic: who gives a ****.

    If this is something that gets your panties in a twist you need to invest in a cat or a hula hoop or something else to occupy the enormous amount of time you're wasting being offended over Interwebz nonsense.

    I've done worse while wearing a uniform and had a LTC buy me beer for it.

    If you've worn a uniform and haven't acted like an ass while a lower enlisted you're a brown-nosing lifer POG.

    No kicking her out, no Article 15, not even a counseling statement.

    Let 1SG scream at her a little bit and have her do some pushups.

    The rest of us can just thank her for her service during a time of war.
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    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: This makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I guess this pic has gone viral. It makes me want to vomit and this so called lady needs to be dishonorably discharged IMO.

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    I do not think she should be dishonorably discharged but maybe a article 15 and knocked down a paygrade.
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