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Rape and Clothing

Rape and clothing correlation

  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    Votes: 24 26.4%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    Votes: 5 5.5%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    Votes: 52 57.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 11.0%

  • Total voters
    91
I don't think clothing is a valid excuse to rape or violate someone anymore than shooting someone for playing their music too loud, is.

Why does society keep holding the victim responsible for their attackers actions?

The notion of human rights seems to be disappearing right before our very eyes. But then thats all it really was...a notion.
 
I don't think clothing is a valid excuse to rape or violate someone anymore than shooting someone for playing their music too loud, is.

Why does society keep holding the victim responsible for their attackers actions?

The notion of human rights seems to be disappearing right before our very eyes. But then thats all it really was...a notion.
A good notion.

But we stretched it too far and it's cracking in some places.
 
MOST of the women are dressed at least somewhat provocatively.

"Provocativeness" is a matter of degree.

It is entirely possible to dress nicely without also making oneself appear to be "easy." The latter style is usually adopted as a matter of deliberate intent.

Yes, but since I've known people who wear biker shirts and things like that who do not actually own a bike, then I know not to jump to such conclusions.

And what "conclusions" would you jump to concerning this man or his associate based upon appearances alone?

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That depends on a lot of different things. For one thing, you are assuming that I would think the first man was scummy, but I would not think that. MY first impression would be that perhaps he just got done working and was just coming in for an after-work relaxing drink.

Maybe the guy in the suit is an obnoxious ass or something. I mean, there IS more to a first impression than clothing.

Uh-huh. :roll:

I know, I am open minded, and you are naive. :)

At the very least, you should take it as a sign that the first man did not care enough about his personal appearance to make himself presentable before going out in public. That does not speak highly of his character.

I, for one, have absolutely no intention of wasting my time on people who can be plainly seen to almost certainly be bad investments from the word "go" on forward.

I suppose you have a point, but that doesn't make it any less jerky.

The whole scene's kind of "jerky." :shrug:

Well, I think she is trying to be sexy, but the outfit is really not sexy but more cheap looking. I will say even kind of skanky looking, and to me there is a BIG difference between sexy and skanky. :mrgreen: HOWEVER, I would not think that SHE is skanky, just that she doesn't understand what "sexy" is.

Of course. However, I think that the woman in question knew exactly what she was doing the minute she put that outfit on. :lol:

I also don't see any compelling reason whatsoever to waste a single second of my time giving her the "benefit of the doubt" on it.
 
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I didn't notice that. I was too busy looking at her clothing. How sad. I would think that a lot of girls who go out and sleep around all the time with just whoever they meet at a bar are probably suffering from some kind of emotional disturbance. :(
Unfortunately, a lot of them do.

But not even close to all of them.
 
I don't think clothing is a valid excuse to rape or violate someone anymore than shooting someone for playing their music too loud, is.
I think it is perfectly acceptable behavior to violate anyone who falsely accuses someone of shooting someone because their music was too loud.
 
I think it is perfectly acceptable behavior to violate anyone who falsely accuses someone of shooting someone because their music was too loud.
In your wet dreams, perhaps.
 
"Provocativeness" is a matter of degree.

No really? :roll: Do you think the rapist picks out the most provocatively dressed girl?

It is entirely possible to dress nicely without also making oneself appear to be "easy." The latter style is usually adopted as a matter of deliberate intent.

That depends on the person I suppose, but no one has a way of knowing whether it is deliberate or not, so that is irrelevant. By "deliberate" I'm assuming that you're saying she's just going out to have sex with someone?



And what "conclusions" would you jump to concerning this man or his associate based upon appearances alone?

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I've met men who look similar to that who happen to be very nice people. YOU are judgmental.

Uh-huh. :roll:

Yeah, uh-huh. I don't care if you don't believe me. It's true. I try not to make snap judgments about a person based upon their clothing. If they stunk or had other "grotesque" things going on, then maybe I would but it would have to be something more than just "dirty" clothing because I have relatives and my ex worked in the construction industry, and a lot of times they would stop off at a bar after work to have a few beers when it was hot out, and they would be dirty from working all day at a dusty filthy job site.


At the very least, you should take it as a sign that the first man did not care enough about his personal appearance to make himself presentable before going out in public. That does not speak highly of his character.

I, for one, have absolutely no intention of wasting my time on people who can be plainly seen to almost certainly be bad investments from the word "go" on forward.

See above, you snob.



The whole scene's kind of "jerky."

That depends upon your intentions and whether or not you're jerky. Personally, I've had some great times going out with my girlfriends dancing. :shrug: It's kind of sad that you don't know how to just relax and have fun.


Of course. However, I think that the woman in question knew exactly what she was doing the minute she put that outfit on. :lol:

I also don't see any compelling reason whatsoever to waste a single second of my time giving her the "benefit of the doubt" on it.

Well that is fine. That's not what we're talking about. We are talking about if we think, if she gets raped, is her choice in clothing responsible, not whether or not YOU would date her. ;)
 
:lol: I'll have to invest in some feety pajamas or something.
hahahaha nice

I dont know will they have a zipper int he front or flap in the back?

if so that maybe to reveling and it could cause a normal sane man to just rape you!!!!

you know since real men are just mentally inept sex animals that cant control themselves lol

it such insane logic to even think such nonsense that clothes have any real impact lol
 
hahahaha nice

I dont know will they have a zipper int he front or flap in the back?

if so that maybe to reveling and it could cause a normal sane man to just rape you!!!!

you know since real men are just mentally inept sex animals that cant control themselves lol

it such insane logic to even think such nonsense that clothes have any real impact lol

He might find the feety pajamas irresistible! :lol: They are soft and furry!
 
Then why did you mention it in the first place? :roll:


To show that the notion of human rights is just that, a notion. Apparently, so is justice.
 
No really? :roll: Do you think the rapist picks out the most provocatively dressed girl?

It certainly doesn't help matters where attracting the wrong type of attention is concerned.

That depends on the person I suppose, but no one has a way of knowing whether it is deliberate or not, so that is irrelevant. By "deliberate" I'm assuming that you're saying she's just going out to have sex with someone?

Or to deliberately attract male attention to stroke her own ego.

Does it really matter?

I've met men who look similar to that who happen to be very nice people. YOU are judgmental.

This one simply happens to be a Neo Nazi on (what I think is) a prison bus. I am "judgmental" for good reason.

It tends to come in quite useful sometimes. lol

Yeah, uh-huh. I don't care if you don't believe me. It's true. I try not to make snap judgments about a person based upon their clothing. If they stunk or had other "grotesque" things going on, then maybe I would but it would have to be something more than just "dirty" clothing because I have relatives and my ex worked in the construction industry, and a lot of times they would stop off at a bar after work to have a few beers when it was hot out, and they would be dirty from working all day at a dusty filthy job site.

I still find it exceptionally hard to believe that you do not show at least some preference for better dressed men over the rest.

If not, you would be the exception, not the rule.

See above, you snob.

:shrug:

That depends upon your intentions and whether or not you're jerky. Personally, I've had some great times going out with my girlfriends dancing. :shrug: It's kind of sad that you don't know how to just relax and have fun.

Meh. Not my scene.

Well that is fine. That's not what we're talking about. We are talking about if we think, if she gets raped, is her choice in clothing responsible, not whether or not YOU would date her.

The fact of the matter is that a person's choice of clothing can and will affect the way others perceive their intentions. This is true of men and women alike, and, a lot of the time, it isn't even unjustified.

Where promiscuously dressed women are concerned, the attention this attracts can sometimes be problematic.

It will not be the major factor in determining their risk of assault, but it can play a role under some circumstances.
 
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It certainly doesn't help matters where attracting the wrong type of attention is concerned.



Or to deliberately attract male attention to stroke her own ego.

Does it really matter?



This one simply happens to be a Neo Nazi on (what I think is) a prison bus. I am "judgmental" for good reason.

It tends to come in quite useful sometimes. lol



I still find it exceptionally hard to believe that you do not show at least some preference for better dressed men over the rest.

If not, you would be the exception, not the rule.



:shrug:



Meh. Not my scene.



The fact of the matter is that a person's choice of clothing can and will affect the way others perceive their intentions. This is true of men and women alike.

Where promiscuously dressed women are concerned, the attention this attracts can sometimes be problematic.

It will not be the major factor in determining her risk of assault, but it can play a role under some circumstances.

Whatever. I think that clothing plays little if any role and that vulnerability and opportunity are what play a role in rape, AS my links demonstrated. :2wave:
 
hahahaha nice

I dont know will they have a zipper int he front or flap in the back?

if so that maybe to reveling and it could cause a normal sane man to just rape you!!!!

you know since real men are just mentally inept sex animals that cant control themselves lol

it such insane logic to even think such nonsense that clothes have any real impact lol

My vote's for the back. whistle.gif
 
Whatever. I think that clothing plays little if any role and that vulnerability and opportunity are what play a role in rape, AS my links demonstrated. :2wave:

Which is not the same thing as playing no role.

I have argued from the beginning here that environment and behavior made the major difference in most cases, not clothing.
 
Which is not the same thing as playing no role.

I have argued from the beginning here that environment and behavior made the major difference in most cases, not clothing.

YET, you keep arguing about the clothing ad nauseam. :roll:
 
YET, you keep arguing about the clothing ad nauseam.

People keep making silly arguments about it. :2razz:

What if I have to go pee? Maybe a little pee pocket or something?

Oh wait, that could be interpreted a slutty.

Curse you sexy footie pajamas and your whorish ways!!! mad.gif

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:lol:
 
I know it, namely you!

Nuh-uh!
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Those actually look warm and comfy. I seriously would wear those when it's really cold out.

Who the Hell ever decided that those things should only be for kids anyway? Footie pajamas are AWESOME. :lol:
 
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Nuh-uh. :mrgreen:



Who the Hell ever decided that those things should only be for kids anyway? Footie pajamas are AWESOME. :lol:

They are unless you have smelly feet. When my son was small, I cut the feet off of the feety pajamas because they stunk so bad in those plastic feeties.
 
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