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Rape and Clothing

Rape and clothing correlation

  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    Votes: 24 26.4%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    Votes: 5 5.5%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    Votes: 52 57.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 11.0%

  • Total voters
    91
Well out of 75 votes only 5 voted that clothes play a role. This site is mostly male so I don't think it's just a handful of men who agree with the majority of women here.

Perhaps, but the comments so far don't really reflect that.

Wearing different clothing does not decrease your risk of being raped, as was shown to you in Aunt Spiker's links.

Again, I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe that.

The claim is nonsensical.
 
If she had been dressed more conservatively, she probably wouldn't have been hanging out with those guys in the first place. They wouldn't have been interested.

LOL! HOW would YOU know that?
 
Perhaps, but the comments so far don't really reflect that.



Again, I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe that.

The claim is nonsensical.

No, your claims are nonsensical. The bottom line is that you can wear any clothing you want as long as you behave responsibly when you are out and follow a few simple rules.

It's when you do things like have to much to drink or go off with strange men that you get yourself into trouble and NOT because you wore a miniskirt.
 
If she had been dressed more conservatively, she probably wouldn't have been hanging out with those guys in the first place. They wouldn't have been interested.

You don't know that. Plenty of girls/women have been dressed conservatively and ended up being raped. I'm willing to bet that she was dressed no more provocatively than most of the other girls at that party. I can't even find what exactly she was wearing. But I do have information that she was "talking to" one of those guys prior to the party. She started out as a target, no matter what she wore that night.
 
LOL! HOW would YOU know that?

If a guy is looking for sex, he tends to seek out a woman who seems like she is going to give it to him.

Revealing clothing is taken as indication of this, and, in some cases, actually is.

The boys in the Steubenville case were clearly hoping to get something out of the girl in question before the end of night, as evidenced by their decision to simply take it when she passed out. Do you really think they would have given that same level of interest to a frumpy girl who did not give the outward inclination of being willing to "put out?"
 
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If she had been dressed more conservatively, she probably wouldn't have been hanging out with those guys in the first place. They wouldn't have been interested.

I don't know if this is a hs or college, but was she the only one dressed that way? I'm sure there were other girls dressed that way. Why did they only violate her, and not the others that were dressed similarly?
 
No, your claims are nonsensical. The bottom line is that you can wear any clothing you want as long as you behave responsibly when you are out and follow a few simple rules.

It's when you do things like have to much to drink or go off with strange men that you get yourself into trouble and NOT because you wore a miniskirt.

Which doesn't mean that every potential predator in the room isn't still going to light up like Christmas morning when such women enter the bar. They simply won't have the opportunity to actually do anything about it.

Either way, the clothing is still drawing attention which might very well be dangerous.
 
If a guy is looking for sex, he tends to seek out a woman who seems like she is going to give it to him.

Revealing clothing is taken as indication of this, and, in some cases, actually is.

The boys in the Steubenville case were clearly hoping to get something out of the girl in question before the end of night, as evidenced by their decision to simply take it when she passed out. Do you really think they would have given that same level of interest to a frumpy give who did not give the outward inclination of being willing to "put out?"

THEY are not seeking out SEX though. The most common rape victims are prostitutes! It has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with getting your rocks off on ABUSING women. That is what rape is about Gathomas. These guys get off on forcing women to have sex with them, it isn't about the attractiveness of the woman or what she is wearing. That has nothing to do with it. ALL kinds of women dressed in all kinds of ways get raped.
 
Which doesn't mean that every potential predator in the room isn't going to light up like Christmas morning when such women enter the bar. They simply won't have the opportunity to actually do anything about it.

Either way, the clothing is still drawing attention which might very well be dangerous.

That is not what rape is about. You don't understand that they are NOT normal men. They are sociopaths.
 
I don't know if this is a hs or college, but was she the only one dressed that way? I'm sure there were other girls dressed that way. Why did they only violate her, and not the others that were dressed similarly?

I'm sure there were other scantily clad girls as well. The one girl simply happened to be the girl they had the most opportunity to get too.

Again, however; I never said that clothing was the primary factor in these kinds of cases anyway. Most of the problem is behavior.

I'm simply saying that it isn't possible to discount the role played by clothing here entirely. It does play a role in giving men a certain impression of a woman's intentions.

Sometimes that intention is misconstrued, which leads to dangerous situations that can result in assaults.
 
Which doesn't mean that every potential predator in the room isn't still going to light up like Christmas morning when such women enter the bar. They simply won't have the opportunity to actually do anything about it.

Either way, the clothing is still drawing attention which might very well be dangerous.

Except the problem with this is it once again makes the assumption that all or even most predators are going to go the same type of woman and that it is based on sexual attraction or showing a bunch of skin. It simply isn't that way. Many sexual predators have types. They aren't going to go for just any pretty or scantily clad person. They are going to go for their type of woman, who might be old, young, black, white, Asian, tall, short, red-headed, brunette, blonde, a barista, a good churchgoing girl, country, goth, wearing glasses, someone who wears no makeup, someone with specific length of hair, someone who looks like their mother, grandmother, aunt, sister, ex-girlfriend/wife, a woman in a position of power no matter her looks, someone who only wears button down shirts or high heel shoes or the color blue, or who wears dangly earrings. There is just no way to know what attracts a potential rapist.
 
I'm sure there were other scantily clad girls as well. The one girl simply happened to be the one they had the most opportunity to get too.

Again, however; I never said that clothing was the primary factor in these kinds of cases anyway. Most of the problem is behavior.

I'm simply saying that it isn't possible to discount the role played by clothing here entirely. It does play a role in giving men a certain impression of a woman's intentions.

Sometimes that intention is misconstrued, which leads to dangerous situations that can result in assaults.

I think YOU just don't like when women dress provocatively because YOU think they're slutty.
 
THEY are not seeking out SEX though. The most common rape victims are prostitutes! It has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with getting your rocks off on ABUSING women. That is what rape is about Gathomas. These guys get off on forcing women to have sex with them, it isn't about the attractiveness of the woman or what she is wearing. That has nothing to do with it. ALL kinds of women dressed in all kinds of ways get raped.

That is not what rape is about. You don't understand that they are NOT normal men. They are sociopaths.

As far as I am aware, the Steubenville boys were not sociopaths. Many date rapists are not.

Again, not all rapes or rapists are created equal here. Not every guy who rapes a woman is some glowering Hannibal Lecter type who has a pathological need to do so.

Sometimes, they're simply immoral assholes who let a situation get out of hand.
 
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Except the problem with this is it once again makes the assumption that all or even most predators are going to go the same type of woman and that it is based on sexual attraction or showing a bunch of skin. It simply isn't that way. Many sexual predators have types. They aren't going to go for just any pretty or scantily clad person. They are going to go for their type of woman, who might be old, young, black, white, Asian, tall, short, red-headed, brunette, blonde, a barista, a good churchgoing girl, country, goth, wearing glasses, someone who wears no makeup, someone with specific length of hair, someone who looks like their mother, grandmother, aunt, sister, ex-girlfriend/wife, a woman in a position of power no matter her looks, someone who only wears button down shirts or high heel shoes or the color blue, or who wears dangly earrings. There is just no way to know what attracts a potential rapist.

Most men tend to share certain sexual cues in common.
 
As far as I am aware, the Steubenville boys were not sociopaths. Many date rapists are not.

Again, not all rapes or rapists are created equal here. Not every guy who rapes a woman is some glowering Hannibal Lecter type who has a pathological need to do so.

As far as you are aware means absolutely nothing. Rapists ARE sociopaths. Normal men are NOT rapists and are not turned on by a woman begging and crying, or having sex with an unresponsive person. I'm sorry but in no situation can that be described as normal behavior.

so·ci·o·path [soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-] Show IPA
noun Psychiatry.
a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
 
I'm sure there were other scantily clad girls as well. The one girl simply happened to be the one they had the most opportunity to get too.

Again, however; I never said that clothing was the primary factor in these kinds of cases anyway. Most of the problem is behavior.

I'm simply saying that it isn't possible to discount the role played by clothing here entirely. It does play a role in giving men a certain impression of a woman's intentions.

Sometimes that intention is misconstrued, which leads to dangerous situations that can result in assaults.

Not in most cases. There is just no way to connect any clothing to protecting a woman from rape in general. Any type of clothing could attract a potential rapist, with there being no evidence that any specific kind is more likely to do so. Unless you can show some evidence to the contrary, your assumptions are just that and based on faulty beliefs that lump all men together in their attractions and why they may have sex with a woman, including rapists.

The only time clothing can definitively be known to make a difference is when you know a specific rapist who targets based on specific types of clothing being worn. But then that would be alerting for that specific clothing.
 
Not in most cases. There is just no way to connect any clothing to protecting a woman from rape in general. Any type of clothing could attract a potential rapist, with there being no evidence that any specific kind is more likely to do so. Unless you can show some evidence to the contrary, your assumptions are just that and based on faulty beliefs that lump all men together in their attractions and why they may have sex with a woman, including rapists.

The only time clothing can definitively be known to make a difference is when you know a specific rapist who targets based on specific types of clothing being worn. But then that would be alerting for that specific clothing.

WHY he is fighting us so hard on this one can only guess. :roll:
 
Most men tend to share certain sexual cues in common.

Rapists would not fall into the category of most men though. And rapes have very little to do with normal sexual attractions/cues that normal men have.
 
I think YOU just don't like when women dress provocatively because YOU think they're slutty.

I've got no problem with women dressing provocatively when appropriate. There simply happen to be certain realities at play here which cannot be ignored.

Presenting one's self to the world in an attention grabbing way tends to be dangerous.

As far as you are aware means absolutely nothing. Rapists ARE sociopaths. Normal men are NOT rapists and are not turned on by a woman begging and crying, or having sex with an unresponsive person. I'm sorry but in no situation can that be described as normal behavior.

Normal people are not murderers. Does this mean that a person has to be a sociopath to kill?

I absolutely agree that the kind of man who would rape probably does have some issues. However, that does not necessarily mean that he is going to be a cold blooded predator who is completely alien in comparison with most other men.

Serial rapists certainly are, but men who take advantage, or rape in a moment of passion, likely won't be.

Not in most cases. There is just no way to connect any clothing to protecting a woman from rape in general. Any type of clothing could attract a potential rapist, with there being no evidence that any specific kind is more likely to do so. Unless you can show some evidence to the contrary, your assumptions are just that and based on faulty beliefs that lump all men together in their attractions and why they may have sex with a woman, including rapists.

The only time clothing can definitively be known to make a difference is when you know a specific rapist who targets based on specific types of clothing being worn. But then that would be alerting for that specific clothing.

If a certain behavior or article of clothing can be counted on to attract men in general, it can be counted on to attract a man who simply happens to be a rapist as well.

That's really all there is to it.

If a woman wants to dress that way, it's up to her. She can probably even get away with it under most circumstances; especially so if she's safe.

However, that doesn't mean that she is not still attracting attention to herself which increases her overall risk of getting into trouble in doing so.
 
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WHY he is fighting us so hard on this one can only guess. :roll:

Because there is an irrational political agenda at play here which is counter-productive to the goal of keeping women safe.

With regards to absolutely no other crime would vulnerable people be told that the amount of attention they draw to themselves in dangerous environments plays literally "no role" in their likelihood of being victimized.
 
1.)Because there is an irrational political agenda at play here which is counter-productive to the goal of keeping women safe.

political agenda? lol

wow thats a failed straw man and complete fantasy

please do tell what is this factual political agenda i didnt read it in my conspiracy news letter this week, i cant wait to read this
 
Because there is an irrational political agenda at play here which is counter-productive to the goal of keeping women safe.

With regards to absolutely no other crime would vulnerable people be told that the amount of attention they draw to themselves in dangerous environments plays literally "no role" in their likelihood of being victimized.

Have you done any actual research on this topic G?

Rapists who misread cues believe the following:
men are naturally assertive and women are naturally passive. There are “good girls” and “bad girls.” Bad girls secretly want sex but can’t admit it, so they trick men into forcing sex. How do these “bad girls” send cues (in these men’s minds)? By doing things like smiling at them, or making eye contact, or by showing a little leg or cleavage. So these men may see a low-cut blouse as a “rape me” signal. But while they also see a smile or eye contact as a sexual come-on, women are only blamed for the dress. Have you ever heard anyone say, “Never look at a man,” or “Never smile at a man, he may rape you!”

Women, if you think dressing modestly will protect you, it won’t. Most rapists don’t care about “cues,” and just in case you run into those who do, you better not look at, or smile at, any man either. Just to be safe.


Does Provocative Dress Ever Cause Rape? | BroadBlogs

Your responses also imply that you find the status quo acceptable.
 
I've got no problem with women dressing provocatively when appropriate. There simply happen to be certain realities at play here which cannot be ignored.

Presenting one's self to the world in an attention grabbing way tends to be dangerous.

That is silly and hyperbole. Sexual Violence Myths: Provocative Clothing Is A Risk Factor - ConsentEd

Normal people are not murderers. Does this mean that a person has to be a sociopath to kill someone?

Um . . . YES. Unless it's self defense of some kind or wartime, then yes it's pretty safe to say that a person is pretty much a sociopath if they kill someone.

I absolutely agree that the kind of man who would rape probably does have some issues. However, that does not necessarily mean that he is going to be a cold blooded predator who is going to be completely alien from most other men.

Yes it does. Studies have concluded just that. They suffer from at least some kind of personality disorder.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/754975_3

Serial rapists certainly are, but men who take advantage, or rape in a moment of passion, likely won't be.

Not true. Normal men do NOT rape women.

If a certain behavior or article of clothing can be counted on to attract men in general, it can be counted on to attract a man who simply happens to be a rapist as well.

No, the risk factor is having a rapist present and behaving in an irresponsible manner, and sometimes the woman doesn't even HAVE to behave in an irresponsible manner and can still be raped. The only risk factor is that there is a rapist present.

That's really all there is to it.

Wrong.


If a woman wants to dress that way, it's up to her. She can probably even get away with it under most circumstances; especially so if she's safe.

However, that does not mean that she is not still attracting attention to herself which increases her overall risk of getting into trouble in doing so.

Bull, it's all about your behavior and the behavior of the rapist and not how you are dressed.
 
Because there is an irrational political agenda at play here which is counter-productive to the goal of keeping women safe.

With regards to absolutely no other crime would vulnerable people be told that the amount of attention they draw to themselves in dangerous environments plays literally "no role" in their likelihood of being victimized.

 
political agenda? lol

wow thats a failed straw man and complete fantasy

please do tell what is this factual political agenda i didnt read it in my conspiracy news letter this week, i cant wait to read this

The "political agenda" in question is right here. :roll:

Your responses also imply that you find the status quo acceptable.

There is a certain politicized subset of our society which believes that literally any, so much as implied, criticism of female sexuality is a form of anti-feminist oppression. As such, they tend to have a vested interest in denying the patently obvious where these kinds of issues are concerned.

Have you done any actual research on this topic G?

Rapists who misread cues believe the following:
men are naturally assertive and women are naturally passive. There are “good girls” and “bad girls.” Bad girls secretly want sex but can’t admit it, so they trick men into forcing sex. How do these “bad girls” send cues (in these men’s minds)? By doing things like smiling at them, or making eye contact, or by showing a little leg or cleavage. So these men may see a low-cut blouse as a “rape me” signal. But while they also see a smile or eye contact as a sexual come-on, women are only blamed for the dress. Have you ever heard anyone say, “Never look at a man,” or “Never smile at a man, he may rape you!”

Women, if you think dressing modestly will protect you, it won’t. Most rapists don’t care about “cues,” and just in case you run into those who do, you better not look at, or smile at, any man either. Just to be safe.

What you just quoted only goes to backup my point. Many rapists do take revealing clothing as being a sign that a woman is a "bad girl" who is open to sex (even if she does not know it herself).

Granted, a lot of them will rape anyway regardless of clothing, but this doesn't change the fact that clothing can sometimes play a role in exacerbating an already bad situation, or making a bad situation more likely to develop in the first place.

Your responses also imply that you find the status quo acceptable.

What "status quo?"
 
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