I really don't think things are quite that simple.
Some rapes simply escalate out of misunderstandings.
IF a rapist is profiling a victim, he would be looking for a woman who he could easily manipulate and control, someone who he thinks won't put up a huge fight, but he wouldn't be profiling women by their clothing.
Why are you so derogatory towards women anyway? Calling them "slutty" and other such names. Those women are PEOPLE you know!
Any guy who can get 'escalated' to the point of rape is going to go off sooner or later- it's just a lottery which woman is his first victim.
Unless it never happens (which most certainly is not the case), it absolutely cannot be discounted.
For that matter, since when is date rape not rape?
Again, not all rapes start with the man having the deliberate intention to rape his victim. The lines occasionally blur after the fact, which might result in the rape being more of a crime of passion.
In any case, the reality that suggestive clothing often plays a role in how men profile women isn't up for debate. It is a self-evident fact.
Do you really think that the kind of men who would be inclined to rape women are going to ignore this?
Do we really have to do this again, Chris? :roll:
We just finished one of these bitchfests in that other thread about Yoga pants only yesterday! :lol:
Any guy who can get 'escalated' to the point of rape is going to go off sooner or later- it's just a lottery which woman is his first victim.
Do we really have to do this again, Chris? :roll:
We just finished one of these bitchfests in that other thread about Yoga pants only yesterday! :lol:
All the more reason for women to take care not to be the victim a potential rapist eventually "goes off" on.
All the more reason for women to take care not to be the victim a potential rapist eventually "goes off" on.
Since posters are getting upset that the yoga thread keeps getting derailed I will ask this here. Do you think most (true cases- not made up, let's not turn this into he said she said discussion) people who get raped are wearing revealing clothing?
I would say that it would happen anyways. If she's wearing revealing clothing, maybe he would be more "turned on" but if he was planning on raping this person, then he's going to do it regardless of what she's wearing.
Do you actually think a rapist is going to say, "oh, well that woman's clothing is not as revealing as that other woman's clothing over there, so she's my victim." I REALLY don't think that's how they target victims. In fact, I'm thinking they might even tend to avoid a person who has the self confidence enough to wear certain clothing because they don't want a victim who has a lot of self-confidence and who would potentially give a good fight. I think a lot of times a rapist, if targeting a victim, would tend to go for a more demurely dressed mousy-type of woman.
Unless you can PROVE your claims, then they don't mean anything. Like I've said, I've NEVER heard of a rapist who targeted "women in slutty clothes."
Yes we do. Every time you call a woman a "slut" because of how she is dressed, I am going to call you out.
I think I asked a fair question. Where does the caution to exercise sensible precaution cross over into victim blaming?
I think I asked a fair question. Where does the caution to exercise sensible precaution cross over into victim blaming?
All the more reason for WOMEN to have to live in fear of men and to NOT wear clothing that they choose? Because they have to be afraid that some douchebag might rape them because of their clothes?
I think it ALWAYS does because I don't think it really plays that much of a role at ALL in rape, unless it's date rape, and then it STILL is not the woman's fault in any way. There is just NO excuse. If a guy gets THAT worked up, then he needs to go jerk off or something.
In many cases, yes. In a lot of other cases, no.
Again, we already know damn well that clothing and behavior can play a role in some cases of date rape. Frankly, even in cases of pure opportunity, suggestive clothing hardly helps matters.
If a man goes walking through a bad inner city neighborhood at night, sure, he might get mugged. However, do you really think that he wouldn't be any more likely to be mugged if he did so in a tux while visibly shuffling through a wallet stuffed with $100 bills?
Why risk it?
Where do you think the "she was asking for it" defense came from in the first place, Chris?
What am I gonna do with you :doh
If the sign says "beware of dog," is your first inclination going to be to jump the fence? :lol:
I'm not referring to the role of the rapist -- it's assumed that he's in the wrong. Are you saying that at absolutely no point are we allowed to even observe that the victim may not have exercised adequate caution?
If the sign says "beware of dog," is your first inclination going to be to jump the fence? :lol:
Take your own chances, Chris. :shrug:
I'm just saying that certain activities and styles of dress are pretty much always going to increase the level of risk at which a woman puts herself.
If she is willing to accept that risk, so be it. If not, however; I would suggest that she be more careful.