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  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    1 0.98%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    28 27.45%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    6 5.88%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    56 54.90%
  • Other

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Thread: Rape and Clothing

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    With regard to the risk of being raped? No.

    I'm a man, and a somewhat larger than average one at that. I sort of "lucked out" on that one.

    However, that doesn't mean that there aren't scenarios in which I wouldn't want to draw attention to myself, or that there aren't certain situations I know that it'd be a good idea to try and avoid.

    When I'm traveling in a foreign country by myself, for instance, do you think I wear my Army uniform?



    Yes, which is why I said it could be a "contributing factor" under some circumstances. I didn't say that it was the only, or primary factor.



    Part of that involves not wearing revealing clothing that is only going to attract unwanted attention in dangerous environments.



    I didn't say that it was. I said that it was a defense rapists themselves liked to use.
    Dangerous environments? Do you think most rapes here in the US occur in "dangerous environments?" And what are these dangerous environments? Night clubs? Somebody's home? Walking down the street?

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think that sometimes women do stupid things that might put themselves at greater risk, yes; but so has everyone at one point or another in their lives, and that in no way excuses the rape. There is NO excuse. It is a crime and violation of another person. I don't care what the person did. I can't think of ONE situation in which I would actually "blame" the woman for a man's decision to rape her.
    You're stuck on the "excusing rape" part. Remove that part from your mind. Except for an unfortunate two or three individuals on DP, nobody is actually seriously suggesting that the rapist in any sense would be excused.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Since posters are getting upset that the yoga thread keeps getting derailed I will ask this here. Do you think most (true cases- not made up, let's not turn this into he said she said discussion) people who get raped are wearing revealing clothing?
    no and that is a stupid statement.
    Rape is a crime of power not attraction.

    But let's say they do. Let's pretend that it is true. It would matter not at all. That would be blaming the victim.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You're stuck on the "excusing rape" part. Remove that part from your mind. Except for an unfortunate two or three individuals on DP, nobody is actually seriously suggesting that the rapist in any sense would be excused.
    Well, didn't you ask the question about responsibility? No I would not hold the victim "responsible" in any event when she was attacked against her will. Like I said, she might have made a bad decision, but who hasn't?

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Activities and stupid decisions, yes. Manner of dress? No, not if you're smart.
    Of course. It is a combination of things.

    A woman can be as sexual as she wants if she knows she has friends nearby to "back her up" if things get out of hand.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I would say that getting inebriated and passing out at a party full of men is putting oneself at risk, but it still doesn't equal "responsibility" for the crime committed against that person IMO. It means she was stupid and made a really bad decision, but I still wouldn't hold her responsible for the actions of another person against her.
    What isn't fair is that it's "stupid" for a girl to do it, and just "party hardy" for a dude to do it. Worse that might happen to a dude passed out on the couch of a frat house is he gets permanent marker on his face. All fun and games.

    For girl?

    Her lapse of judgement can, and often does, lead to far worse repercussions.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Should the person raped, sex aside, have to wear the same type of clothing in Court as they did when they are raped?
    Female parents of female teenagers tell me yes .
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Dangerous environments? Do you think most rapes here in the US occur in "dangerous environments?" And what are these dangerous environments? Night clubs? Somebody's home? Walking down the street?
    Frat houses. Dorm rooms. Parks.







    You know, dangerous places.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, didn't you ask the question about responsibility? No I would not hold the victim "responsible" in any event when she was attacked against her will. Like I said, she might have made a bad decision, but who hasn't?
    Well, that's all I'm saying. It's perfectly acceptable to say that without excusing the rapist.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 02-18-14 at 07:35 PM.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    What isn't fair is that it's "stupid" for a girl to do it, and just "party hardy" for a dude to do it. Worse that might happen to a dude passed out on the couch of a frat house is he gets permanent marker on his face. All fun and games.

    For girl?

    Her lapse of judgement can, and often does, lead to far worse repercussions.
    Well, yea. It's horrible.

    However, it's also not going to change. It is what it is.

    If women want to be safe if that environment, they need to take precautions.

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