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  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    1 0.98%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    28 27.45%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    6 5.88%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    56 54.90%
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I'm not denying any of these things, Chris. What I'm saying is that I haven't seen anything to suggest that the ME's rape rate is greater than or equal to that of the West.

    You're not making an argument from evidence here, but the absence of it.

    All I said was that, objectively speaking, crimes like date rape are going to be a lot less likely in a culture like the Middle East, because concepts like "dating" don't even really exist in the first place.
    In the Middle East probably the stats show far less rape because rape isn't generally a crime and if a woman claims rape she'll be imprisoned or executed for adultery. You REALLY aren't trying to compare the Middle East to the USA for the number of women forced to have sex against her wishes are you?

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    You assume that I care about any of those things?



    Then you agree, contrary to your ridiculous earlier claim, that it is justifiable to suggest that women alter their behaviors under certain circumstances to better ensure their own safety?

    Good.

    We are in agreement.

    Jumping into this, you've trivialized your statement to have no value whatsoever.

    If a man never leaves his house or opens the door unless 100% absolutely necessary for life's essentials, he will less likely be a victim of crime. THEREFORE, how a man dresses and acts makes him at least partly responsible if he is a crime victim.

    That is an absolutely valueless statement, isn't it?

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    do you ever actually read whats on the screen
    Where you are concerned? Honestly, not really.

    I skim, at best.

    no i dont agree with the insanity you posted earlier no was my statement ridiculous it was factual nor does it have anything to do with what you are saying now which had nothing to do with what me and CHrisl was talking about lol. Man you NEVER stop posting stuff thats completely made up.
    Then you don't agree that women, in the interests of being more safe, should generally seek to moderate their behavior in potentially dangerous environments?

    I guess this brings us back to square one then.

    What do you propose, J?

    I'm waiting.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    In the Middle East probably the stats show far less rape because rape isn't generally a crime and if a woman claims rape she'll be imprisoned or executed for adultery. You REALLY aren't trying to compare the Middle East to the USA for the number of women forced to have sex against her wishes are you?
    I'm not denying that certain kinds of rape are a lot more common in the Middle East (spousal rape, for instance). However, I have seen no evidence whatsoever to suggest that rape rates are higher, or even equal, across the board.

    How could they be? Where would most predatory men even get the opportunity to attack a woman in that kind of society?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Jumping into this, you've trivialized your statement to have no value whatsoever.

    If a man never leaves his house or opens the door unless 100% absolutely necessary for life's essentials, he will less likely be a victim of crime. THEREFORE, how a man dresses and acts makes him at least partly responsible if he is a crime victim.

    That is an absolutely valueless statement, isn't it?
    I was never suggesting anything that extreme in the first place; just that a somewhat greater degree of caution and restraint was advisable under certain circumstances.

    Wandering around in a secluded high crime high poverty area as a middle class person, for instance, generally tends to be risky, but that risk can be managed. Doing so in expensive clothing is a worse idea on the whole, but it probably won't make all that big a difference in a person's chances of being attacked in and of itself if other precautions are taken.

    However, that being said, anyone should be able to tell that doing so in expensive clothing while wasted off your ass and allowing some local you barely know to guide you is simply idiotic.

    All I'm saying here is that much the same logic applies to the environments that tend to foster date rapes. All "politically correct" nonsense aside, there are certain behaviors a person should avoid if they don't want to make themselves a target.
    Last edited by Gathomas88; 02-23-14 at 04:45 AM.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    1.)Where you are concerned? Honestly, not really.
    I skim, at best.
    2.)Then you don't agree that women, in the interests of being more safe, should generally seek to moderate their behavior in potentially dangerous environments?
    3.)I guess this brings us back to square one then.
    What do you propose, J?
    I'm waiting.
    1.) well this seems obvious and explains why your posts fail so often and make so much up
    2.) good grief, everybody should do this in all environments but this doesnt have to do with dress
    3.) and you will continue to fail every time you come back to this since it was already answered lol you imaginary discussion will always cause your posts to fail
    facts win again, this is awesome
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    2.) good grief, everybody should do this in all environments
    Then we agree, yes?

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Then we agree, yes?
    i dont know

    this is MY statement

    everybody should be aware of thier environment and not drink so much that it prevents them from doing so

    if you agree with my statments that good for you
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    i dont know

    this is MY statement

    everybody should be aware of thier environment and not drink so much that it prevents them from doing so

    if you agree with my statments that good for you
    Some environments are more dangerous for certain kinds of people than others, and so require a greater degree of caution from them. Whether anyone happens to like it or not, this is the case for women at bars, clubs, and parties (just as it would be the case for me in a gay club, or in a lower income neighborhood).

    However, apart from that minor clarification, yes. Your statement is satisfactory.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Some environments are more dangerous for certain kinds of people than others, and so require a greater degree of caution from them. Whether anyone happens to like it or not, this is the case for women at bars, clubs, and parties (just as it would be the case for me in a gay club, or in a lower income neighborhood).

    However, apart from that minor clarification, yes. Your statement is satisfactory.
    im glad you agree with the common sense facts that many have presented in this thread
    the rest of you added opinion is just that, opinion and you are free to have it
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    im glad you agree with the common sense facts that many have presented in this thread
    the rest of you added opinion is just that, opinion and you are free to have it
    It is a fact that women are in more danger of being raped and assaulted than men, especially so in environments with alcohol and large concentrations of young men.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    It is a fact that women are more likely to be raped than men, especially so in environments with alcohol and large concentrations of young men.
    yes stats support that women are more likely to be "raped" then men
    good thin nobody said otherwise huh lol
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