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  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    1 0.98%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    28 27.45%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    6 5.88%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    56 54.90%
  • Other

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    I don't think clothing is a valid excuse to rape or violate someone anymore than shooting someone for playing their music too loud, is.

    Why does society keep holding the victim responsible for their attackers actions?

    The notion of human rights seems to be disappearing right before our very eyes. But then thats all it really was...a notion.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I don't think clothing is a valid excuse to rape or violate someone anymore than shooting someone for playing their music too loud, is.

    Why does society keep holding the victim responsible for their attackers actions?

    The notion of human rights seems to be disappearing right before our very eyes. But then thats all it really was...a notion.
    A good notion.

    But we stretched it too far and it's cracking in some places.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    MOST of the women are dressed at least somewhat provocatively.
    "Provocativeness" is a matter of degree.

    It is entirely possible to dress nicely without also making oneself appear to be "easy." The latter style is usually adopted as a matter of deliberate intent.

    Yes, but since I've known people who wear biker shirts and things like that who do not actually own a bike, then I know not to jump to such conclusions.
    And what "conclusions" would you jump to concerning this man or his associate based upon appearances alone?

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    That depends on a lot of different things. For one thing, you are assuming that I would think the first man was scummy, but I would not think that. MY first impression would be that perhaps he just got done working and was just coming in for an after-work relaxing drink.

    Maybe the guy in the suit is an obnoxious ass or something. I mean, there IS more to a first impression than clothing.
    Uh-huh.

    I know, I am open minded, and you are naive.
    At the very least, you should take it as a sign that the first man did not care enough about his personal appearance to make himself presentable before going out in public. That does not speak highly of his character.

    I, for one, have absolutely no intention of wasting my time on people who can be plainly seen to almost certainly be bad investments from the word "go" on forward.

    I suppose you have a point, but that doesn't make it any less jerky.
    The whole scene's kind of "jerky."

    Well, I think she is trying to be sexy, but the outfit is really not sexy but more cheap looking. I will say even kind of skanky looking, and to me there is a BIG difference between sexy and skanky. HOWEVER, I would not think that SHE is skanky, just that she doesn't understand what "sexy" is.
    Of course. However, I think that the woman in question knew exactly what she was doing the minute she put that outfit on.

    I also don't see any compelling reason whatsoever to waste a single second of my time giving her the "benefit of the doubt" on it.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I didn't notice that. I was too busy looking at her clothing. How sad. I would think that a lot of girls who go out and sleep around all the time with just whoever they meet at a bar are probably suffering from some kind of emotional disturbance.
    Unfortunately, a lot of them do.

    But not even close to all of them.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I don't think clothing is a valid excuse to rape or violate someone anymore than shooting someone for playing their music too loud, is.
    I think it is perfectly acceptable behavior to violate anyone who falsely accuses someone of shooting someone because their music was too loud.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    I think it is perfectly acceptable behavior to violate anyone who falsely accuses someone of shooting someone because their music was too loud.
    In your wet dreams, perhaps.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    In your wet dreams, perhaps.
    Not just dreams. That's what I really think. It's my personal opinion.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    "Provocativeness" is a matter of degree.
    No really? Do you think the rapist picks out the most provocatively dressed girl?

    It is entirely possible to dress nicely without also making oneself appear to be "easy." The latter style is usually adopted as a matter of deliberate intent.
    That depends on the person I suppose, but no one has a way of knowing whether it is deliberate or not, so that is irrelevant. By "deliberate" I'm assuming that you're saying she's just going out to have sex with someone?



    And what "conclusions" would you jump to concerning this man or his associate based upon appearances alone?

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    I've met men who look similar to that who happen to be very nice people. YOU are judgmental.

    Uh-huh.
    Yeah, uh-huh. I don't care if you don't believe me. It's true. I try not to make snap judgments about a person based upon their clothing. If they stunk or had other "grotesque" things going on, then maybe I would but it would have to be something more than just "dirty" clothing because I have relatives and my ex worked in the construction industry, and a lot of times they would stop off at a bar after work to have a few beers when it was hot out, and they would be dirty from working all day at a dusty filthy job site.


    At the very least, you should take it as a sign that the first man did not care enough about his personal appearance to make himself presentable before going out in public. That does not speak highly of his character.

    I, for one, have absolutely no intention of wasting my time on people who can be plainly seen to almost certainly be bad investments from the word "go" on forward.
    See above, you snob.



    The whole scene's kind of "jerky."
    That depends upon your intentions and whether or not you're jerky. Personally, I've had some great times going out with my girlfriends dancing. It's kind of sad that you don't know how to just relax and have fun.


    Of course. However, I think that the woman in question knew exactly what she was doing the minute she put that outfit on.

    I also don't see any compelling reason whatsoever to waste a single second of my time giving her the "benefit of the doubt" on it.
    Well that is fine. That's not what we're talking about. We are talking about if we think, if she gets raped, is her choice in clothing responsible, not whether or not YOU would date her.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Not just dreams. That's what I really think. It's my personal opinion.
    no matter.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    no matter.
    Then why did you mention it in the first place?

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