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  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    1 0.98%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    28 27.45%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    6 5.88%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    56 54.90%
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm sure plenty of people would consider you a slut without even knowing what you look like, because THAT doesn't matter. There are fat sluts and ugly sluts, so WHAT does a "slut" look like?
    There are pictures in this thread that will help you answer that question.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    There are pictures in this thread that will help you answer that question.
    A slut can look ugly like you too though.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This is all such bull crap! The only way a person's clothing would be considered "consenting" to sex is if she wasn't wearing any!
    Who in the heck are you talking to? No one said anything about clothing indicating "consent."

    Clothing doesn't speak, and if any man is making assumptions about a woman based upon how she is dressed, then he is moron and mentally disturbed too.
    Please. Everyone does this, not just men looking at women.

    Are you honestly going to tell me that you do not make certain assumptions about a man who is dressed like a biker or gangster rapper that you wouldn't make about a man wearing an expensive business suit?

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Who in the heck are you talking to? No one said anything about clothing indicating "consent."
    What in the heck are YOU talking about? You have been doing nothing but indicating that throughout the entire thread. You said that the rapist would feel that, because of how a woman is dressed, that means she is consenting to sex. THAT is what YOU said.

    Please. Everyone does this, not just men looking at women.

    Are you honestly going to tell me that you do not make certain assumptions about a man who is dressed like a biker or gangster rapper that you wouldn't make about a man wearing an expensive business suit?
    No. I know plenty of people who wear biker shirts. It doesn't mean they're bikers though. Just because someone wears a concert T-shirt doesn't mean they're a member of the band! If I'm at a club and I see women dressed provocatively, I don't give it a second thought! Unless they were half nude or something and that is RARE, thinking "oh she must be slutty" doesn't even cross my mind!

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Men who rape, I would imagine, find sluts more desirable. They justify in their minds that "she's asking for it".

    I'm betting that the difference between the average man and a rapist is impulse control.
    Another winning statement. I'm sure there's one or two here that were ready to do the dirty but refrained from forcing themselves on her when she refused.A normal guy won't be able to continue if he has to pin her down! It should be akin to a parent or a child walking into a room! These same guys who couldn't stop b/c they were so horny would stop in a heartbeat if an authoritative figure walked in or a child!

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What in the heck are YOU talking about? You have been doing nothing but indicating that throughout the entire thread. You said that the rapist would feel that, because of how a woman is dressed, that means she is consenting to sex. THAT is what YOU said.
    And he would be wrong, which is why we send such people to jail.

    No where have I implied that clothing is an actual form of consent.

    No. I know plenty of people who wear biker shirts. It doesn't mean they're bikers though. Just because someone wears a concert T-shirt doesn't mean they're a member of the band!
    We're not talking about people you know.

    If I'm at a club and I see women dressed provocatively, I don't give it a second thought! Unless they were half nude or something and that is RARE, thinking "oh she must be slutty" doesn't even cross my mind!
    Why would it? You're not a guy, so you're not deliberately looking for those kinds of women.

    On the other hand, however; if you see a man come in wearing a greasy stained T-shirt and ripped blue jeans with four days worth of stubble on his face, are you not going make certain assumptions about him based off of his style of dress?

    What about a man wearing an expensive suit instead?

    Be honest here, Chris.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Another winning statement. I'm sure there's one or two here that were ready to do the dirty but refrained from forcing themselves on her when she refused.A normal guy won't be able to continue if he has to pin her down! It should be akin to a parent or a child walking into a room! These same guys who couldn't stop b/c they were so horny would stop in a heartbeat if an authoritative figure walked in or a child!
    I've never understood that myself. Unless he's simply too drunk to notice her distress, you would think that struggling would be a major turn off.
    Last edited by Gathomas88; 02-20-14 at 05:15 PM.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    And he would be wrong, which is why we send such people to jail.

    No where have I implied that clothing is an actual form of consent.



    We're not talking about people you know.



    Why would it? You're not a guy, so you're not deliberately looking for those kinds of women.

    On the other hand, however; if you see a man come in wearing a greasy stained T-shirt and ripped blue jeans with four days worth of stubble on his face, are you not going make certain assumptions about him based off of his style of dress?

    What about a man wearing an expensive suit instead?

    Be honest here, Chris.



    I've never understood that myself. Unless he's simply too drunk to notice her distress, you would think that struggling would be a major turn off.
    I have to get back to work, I'll have to answer this later.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Nah, you're not looking at this from a guy point of view, which is difficult, unless you're a guy. A girl who's got everything pushed up and out, looking like sex on a stick is definitely going to be more irresistible than Miss Librarian date. If a sexpot is sticking her tongue in your ear, saying nasty things with a little nipple popping out, then suddenly says "NO!", then the clothes played a part in how hard the date rape was to resist.

    Again it's not common, but squeezing, teasing with no intention of pleasing and barely wearing a squirrel cover is a recipe for disaster. Don't underestimate, even a normal guys control, when the hormones of youth kick in.
    No, you're looking at this from one guy's point of view, yours. Many guys go after the librarian type girls, even if for the whole fantasy of her being a livewire in bed. Even guys are not that simple, not all of them, not even most of them. Some wouldn't be caught dead with a trashy girl or some girl they viewed as a slut, but the nice, quieter, less outgoing girl, now she's worth taking home.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, you're looking at this from one guy's point of view, yours. Many guys go after the librarian type girls, even if for the whole fantasy of her being a livewire in bed. Even guys are not that simple, not all of them, not even most of them. Some wouldn't be caught dead with a trashy girl or some girl they viewed as a slut, but the nice, quieter, less outgoing girl, now she's worth taking home.
    Yes, and that type of guy isn't going to be the sort that is prone to either "picking up" strange women, or the kinds of misunderstandings which can often escalate into date rape.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    There are also many instances of molestation of younger teens. A friend of mine and his sister were partially molested by a family friend, who was a teenager himself. It wasn't full on rape or penetration and sometimes, it's even from a family member. These are usually impulsive acts, and not premeditated or meant to cause harm. This and women having men go too far in office, clubs, bars and dates are often mistaken as serious abuse, when they're actually minor sexual assaults.

    In most of those cases, how someone dresses and they're appearance is more a factor than in violent forms of sexual assault.
    Sort of. Legally any acts that involve touching that is unwarranted are punishable, some people are just touchy types that express themselves with hugs, or other touches that could be seen as a sexual advance(I usually give close friends a big bear hug, and kiss very close female friends on the cheek or hand). In a case where there could be misinterpretation the two parties should just sit and talk it out. In the case of a "no doubter" I have no sympathy.
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