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  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    1 0.98%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    28 27.45%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    6 5.88%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    56 54.90%
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Thread: Rape and Clothing

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    She was with him for the entire night, dancing with him, allowing him to buy her drinks and then followed him to a secluded location. THAT is a crime of opportunity, and if she was wearing a T-shirt with jeans, it still would happen.
    Clothing plays a role in determining how other people will perceive a woman and her intentions. It also plays a role in determining what kind of men she's going to attract in the first place.

    A woman perceived to be "slutty" is going to attract a certain type of guy, who very likely doesn't have particularly respectful views towards women in the first place.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    No.

    What's revealing clothing, anyway? Clothing meant to be appealing is the appropriate phrasing. Most people have no clue what another person was wearing when things happened. It's usually circumstantial and doesn't matter as MOST rapes aren't 'I was in my most whorish outfit in an alley alone in the middle of the night and some strange man attacked me' - no - most rapes happen in familiar surroundings and usually the perp is someone the victim knows in some sense.
    Exactly. And even stranger rapes are usually crimes of opportunity, where the victim is unlucky enough to find herself alone with the rapist. He doesn't care what she's wearing.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Clothing plays a role in determining how other people will perceive a woman and her intentions. It also plays a role in determining what kind of men she's going to attract in the first place.

    A woman perceived to be "slutty" is going to attract a certain type of guy, who very likely doesn't have particularly respectful views towards women in the first place.
    That is obviously not true. It might play a role in getting male attention at the bar, but it doesn't have anything to do with being raped. If you were referring to "date rape" only, then you might have a point.

    Strangers rape women who they can get ALONE. They don't care what she's wearing. They don't choose victims out by their clothing most often.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I believe opportunity is usually the primary way a target is chosen.
    Where observation of sensible opportunity-reduction strategies just crosses over into blaming the victim is a line I can't identify.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Christ almighty!! If what you said was true, only women dressed scantily would be getting raped, and ONLY attractive ones. THAT is certainly far from being the case. Ugly women, fat women, dirty women, homeless women, drug-addled women have also been victims of rape. It has really nothing to do with her appearance whatsoever in MOST cases. Most of the time it is a crime of opportunity.
    I explicitly said that I didn't think that clothing was a factor in most rapes in my very first post in this thread. I was simply saying that it cannot be discounted entirely.

    There are some circumstances where it can either draw attention to a woman from the wrong kinds of men, or give men the wrong idea. Both scenarios could conceivably result in rape under the wrong circumstances.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I'd venture so far as to say "no," though I'm sure it plays a role in at least some rapes, and probably a lot of date rape cases as well.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I explicitly said that I didn't think that clothing was a factor in most rapes in my very first post in this thread. I was simply saying that it cannot be discounted entirely.

    There are some circumstances where it can either draw attention to a woman from the wrong kinds of men, or give men the wrong idea. Both scenarios could conceivably result in rape under the wrong circumstances.
    It can be discounted. Most rapes are not committed on the basis of what clothing a woman is wearing. A lot of times a rape will occur during the commission of another crime (such as robbery/home invasions). We also have serial rapers, and they are definitely looking for easy opportunities. The only kind of rape I could see where clothing would play any factor whatsoever is date rape.

    Like Aunt Spiker said, most rapes are committed by a person who knows the victim somewhat too.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is obviously not true. It might play a role in getting male attention at the bar, but it doesn't have anything to do with being raped. If you were referring to "date rape" only, then you might have a point.
    And if she happens to draw attention from the wrong kinds of men (which 'slutty attire' can have a definite tendency to do), she only makes the likelihood of catching the attention of a potential rapist that much greater.

    Strangers rape women who they can get ALONE. They don't care what she's wearing. They don't choose victims out by their clothing most often.
    Again, this isn't always true. Some men might rape because they feel slighted by a woman, or that she's not really serious in her lack of consent to sex.

    Suggestive clothing can play a role in that.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It can be discounted. Most rapes are not committed on the basis of what clothing a woman is wearing. A lot of times a rape will occur during the commission of another crime (such as robbery/home invasions). We also have serial rapers, and they are definitely looking for easy opportunities. The only kind of rape I could see where clothing would play any factor whatsoever is date rape.

    Like Aunt Spiker said, most rapes are committed by a person who knows the victim somewhat too.
    Unless it never happens (which most certainly is not the case), it absolutely cannot be discounted.

    For that matter, since when is date rape not rape?

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    And if she happens to draw attention from the wrong kinds of men (which 'slutty attire' can have a definite tendency to do), she only makes the likelihood of catching the attention of a potential rapist that much greater.
    IF a rapist is profiling a victim, he would be looking for a woman who he could easily manipulate and control, someone who he thinks won't put up a huge fight, but he wouldn't be profiling women by their clothing.

    Again, this isn't always true. Some men might rape because they feel slighted by a woman, or that she's not really serious in her lack of consent to sex.

    Suggestive clothing can play a role in that.
    I've only ever heard of ONE instance of rapes where clothing played a factor, and it was more because it was easy access as opposed to "looking slutty" as you are so fond of saying.

    Why are you so derogatory towards women anyway? Calling them "slutty" and other such names. Those women are PEOPLE you know!

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Since posters are getting upset that the yoga thread keeps getting derailed I will ask this here. Do you think most (true cases- not made up, let's not turn this into he said she said discussion) people who get raped are wearing revealing clothing?
    I haven't ever read that it was the cloathes. Personally I tend to believe it is more. But there is, I seem to remember, a certain statistical probability for women who have been raped to be raped again.

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