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  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    1 0.98%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    28 27.45%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    6 5.88%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    56 54.90%
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    If she had been dressed more conservatively, she probably wouldn't have been hanging out with those guys in the first place. They wouldn't have been interested.
    I don't know if this is a hs or college, but was she the only one dressed that way? I'm sure there were other girls dressed that way. Why did they only violate her, and not the others that were dressed similarly?

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, your claims are nonsensical. The bottom line is that you can wear any clothing you want as long as you behave responsibly when you are out and follow a few simple rules.

    It's when you do things like have to much to drink or go off with strange men that you get yourself into trouble and NOT because you wore a miniskirt.
    Which doesn't mean that every potential predator in the room isn't still going to light up like Christmas morning when such women enter the bar. They simply won't have the opportunity to actually do anything about it.

    Either way, the clothing is still drawing attention which might very well be dangerous.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    If a guy is looking for sex, he tends to seek out a woman who seems like she is going to give it to him.

    Revealing clothing is taken as indication of this, and, in some cases, actually is.

    The boys in the Steubenville case were clearly hoping to get something out of the girl in question before the end of night, as evidenced by their decision to simply take it when she passed out. Do you really think they would have given that same level of interest to a frumpy give who did not give the outward inclination of being willing to "put out?"
    THEY are not seeking out SEX though. The most common rape victims are prostitutes! It has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with getting your rocks off on ABUSING women. That is what rape is about Gathomas. These guys get off on forcing women to have sex with them, it isn't about the attractiveness of the woman or what she is wearing. That has nothing to do with it. ALL kinds of women dressed in all kinds of ways get raped.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Which doesn't mean that every potential predator in the room isn't going to light up like Christmas morning when such women enter the bar. They simply won't have the opportunity to actually do anything about it.

    Either way, the clothing is still drawing attention which might very well be dangerous.
    That is not what rape is about. You don't understand that they are NOT normal men. They are sociopaths.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I don't know if this is a hs or college, but was she the only one dressed that way? I'm sure there were other girls dressed that way. Why did they only violate her, and not the others that were dressed similarly?
    I'm sure there were other scantily clad girls as well. The one girl simply happened to be the girl they had the most opportunity to get too.

    Again, however; I never said that clothing was the primary factor in these kinds of cases anyway. Most of the problem is behavior.

    I'm simply saying that it isn't possible to discount the role played by clothing here entirely. It does play a role in giving men a certain impression of a woman's intentions.

    Sometimes that intention is misconstrued, which leads to dangerous situations that can result in assaults.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Which doesn't mean that every potential predator in the room isn't still going to light up like Christmas morning when such women enter the bar. They simply won't have the opportunity to actually do anything about it.

    Either way, the clothing is still drawing attention which might very well be dangerous.
    Except the problem with this is it once again makes the assumption that all or even most predators are going to go the same type of woman and that it is based on sexual attraction or showing a bunch of skin. It simply isn't that way. Many sexual predators have types. They aren't going to go for just any pretty or scantily clad person. They are going to go for their type of woman, who might be old, young, black, white, Asian, tall, short, red-headed, brunette, blonde, a barista, a good churchgoing girl, country, goth, wearing glasses, someone who wears no makeup, someone with specific length of hair, someone who looks like their mother, grandmother, aunt, sister, ex-girlfriend/wife, a woman in a position of power no matter her looks, someone who only wears button down shirts or high heel shoes or the color blue, or who wears dangly earrings. There is just no way to know what attracts a potential rapist.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I'm sure there were other scantily clad girls as well. The one girl simply happened to be the one they had the most opportunity to get too.

    Again, however; I never said that clothing was the primary factor in these kinds of cases anyway. Most of the problem is behavior.

    I'm simply saying that it isn't possible to discount the role played by clothing here entirely. It does play a role in giving men a certain impression of a woman's intentions.

    Sometimes that intention is misconstrued, which leads to dangerous situations that can result in assaults.
    I think YOU just don't like when women dress provocatively because YOU think they're slutty.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    THEY are not seeking out SEX though. The most common rape victims are prostitutes! It has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with getting your rocks off on ABUSING women. That is what rape is about Gathomas. These guys get off on forcing women to have sex with them, it isn't about the attractiveness of the woman or what she is wearing. That has nothing to do with it. ALL kinds of women dressed in all kinds of ways get raped.
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is not what rape is about. You don't understand that they are NOT normal men. They are sociopaths.
    As far as I am aware, the Steubenville boys were not sociopaths. Many date rapists are not.

    Again, not all rapes or rapists are created equal here. Not every guy who rapes a woman is some glowering Hannibal Lecter type who has a pathological need to do so.

    Sometimes, they're simply immoral assholes who let a situation get out of hand.
    Last edited by Gathomas88; 02-19-14 at 11:47 PM.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Except the problem with this is it once again makes the assumption that all or even most predators are going to go the same type of woman and that it is based on sexual attraction or showing a bunch of skin. It simply isn't that way. Many sexual predators have types. They aren't going to go for just any pretty or scantily clad person. They are going to go for their type of woman, who might be old, young, black, white, Asian, tall, short, red-headed, brunette, blonde, a barista, a good churchgoing girl, country, goth, wearing glasses, someone who wears no makeup, someone with specific length of hair, someone who looks like their mother, grandmother, aunt, sister, ex-girlfriend/wife, a woman in a position of power no matter her looks, someone who only wears button down shirts or high heel shoes or the color blue, or who wears dangly earrings. There is just no way to know what attracts a potential rapist.
    Most men tend to share certain sexual cues in common.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    As far as I am aware, the Steubenville boys were not sociopaths. Many date rapists are not.

    Again, not all rapes or rapists are created equal here. Not every guy who rapes a woman is some glowering Hannibal Lecter type who has a pathological need to do so.
    As far as you are aware means absolutely nothing. Rapists ARE sociopaths. Normal men are NOT rapists and are not turned on by a woman begging and crying, or having sex with an unresponsive person. I'm sorry but in no situation can that be described as normal behavior.

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