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  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    1 0.98%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    28 27.45%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    6 5.88%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    56 54.90%
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I dare you to point to a single instance of my ever saying anything even remotely implying that it was.

    Advising vulnerable persons not to take foolish risks is not tantamount to arguing that rape is "ok."

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    There are certain sexual cues that basically all men tend to be drawn towards. A reasonably attractive woman showing a lot of skin, or wearing extremely tight clothing, is going to grab basically any man's attention regardless of whatever other superficial preferences he might happen to carry.

    For instance, I don't think you'll find a man alive who would find this woman to be blatantly unattractive, even if she wasn't necessarily his "type."

    And you would be wrong in this assumption. I lived with a guy who was not attracted to women like the one you pictured at all. He was only attracted to rather large women (both in height and weight). He may be an exception, but since rapists are the exceptions, it is wrong to believe they automatically follow basic, typical male attractions.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And you would be wrong in this assumption. I lived with a guy who was not attracted to women like the one you pictured at all. He was only attracted to rather large women (both in height and weight). He may be an exception, but since rapists are the exceptions, it is wrong to believe they automatically follow basic, typical male attractions.


    Meanwhile, back on planet earth...

    I'm sorry, but I really think you are overthinking this. Guys are not complicated creatures.

    Now, if you were dealing with a hardcore pathological sexual psychopath, some of what you're claiming here might be true. However, not all rapists fit that bill.

    A lot of date rapists, for instance, might very well be first time offenders who didn't have a set plan ahead of time and don't follow any particular M.O.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    There are certain sexual cues that basically all men tend to be drawn towards. A reasonably attractive woman showing a lot of skin, or wearing extremely tight clothing, is going to grab basically any man's attention regardless of whatever other superficial preferences he might happen to carry.

    For instance, I don't think you'll find a man alive who would find this woman to be blatantly unattractive, even if she wasn't necessarily his "type."

    Never underestimate the power of individualism (or emotional instability).

    I know people that like/don't like aspects of the human anatomy that completely confuse me. And these people will be completely put off a person's appearance because of just that one tiny aspect.

    I guarantee you that there is at least one guy, somewhere in the world, that finds this woman 'blatantly unattractive' (not me, of course)...for even the tiniest of reasons.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post


    Meanwhile, back on planet earth...

    I'm sorry, but I really think you are overthinking this. Guys are not complicated creatures.

    Now, if you were dealing with a hardcore pathological sexual psychopath, some of what you're claiming here might be true. However, not all rapists fit that bill.

    A lot of date rapists, for instance, might very well be first time offenders who didn't have a set plan ahead of time and don't follow any particular M.O.
    You are making assumptions based on your personal feelings, attractions. The majority of rapes that you are describing (where the victim is wearing something that attracts their rapist to them with little to no chance to even interact with the rapist) is not going to be based on clothing as much as the type of person that particular rapist is attracted to or what the rapist is attracted to. You are trying to apply the rationale of a man and his attractions to a rapist who already has issues (they wouldn't feel it was okay to rape a woman if they didn't have issues).

    Clothing would only come into play with some specific rapists, but what kind of clothing could really be anything. It could be any clothing that is red, or long skirts, or showing cleavage, or a woman that goes out her way to look like a man/less feminine or even just natural. It is impossible to know what might attract a potential rapist without knowing the particular psychology or MO of that rapist. Some rapists only attack redheads, others only women between certain ages, and still others only women who hold certain jobs or are in certain positions.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    In most cases where you are dealing with violent or serial rapists, this true. However, those are not all cases.

    Do you really think that those football players in Steubenville, for instance, completely ignored what their victim was wearing or how she presented herself before they assaulted her? Do you really think they went out of their way to "target" or tag her as being "submissive" in any particular sense?

    Knowing High school aged boys, I really kind of doubt it.

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Never underestimate the power of individualism (or emotional instability).

    I know people that like/don't like aspects of the human anatomy that completely confuse me. And these people will be completely put off a person's appearance because of just that one tiny aspect.

    I guarantee you that there is at least one guy, somewhere in the world, that finds this woman 'blatantly unattractive' (not me, of course)...for even the tiniest of reasons.
    Perhaps, but exceptions to this general rule are going to be so rare as to be barely even worth mentioning.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Never underestimate the power of individualism (or emotional instability).

    I know people that like/don't like aspects of the human anatomy that completely confuse me. And these people will be completely put off a person's appearance because of just that one tiny aspect.

    I guarantee you that there is at least one guy, somewhere in the world, that finds this woman 'blatantly unattractive' (not me, of course)...for even the tiniest of reasons.
    I already gave him one, my ex-roommate. He was a good guy, kinda bland, but he was only attracted to large women. He would not look twice at the woman pictured there. He simply was not attracted to skinny/small women, no matter how much or how little clothing they wore. (For the first few years I lived with him, I thought he was asexual because of his lack of interest in women that most men found attractive and I was pretty sure he wasn't gay (most of the gay guys in our department were well known because it wasn't a big deal). Then he started dating this really nice larger woman until about the time he got out of the Navy and I found out from mutual friends that yeah, he expressed this attraction often while on watch (we didn't stand watches together).)
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    In most cases where you are dealing with violent or serial rapists, this true. However, those are not all cases.

    Do you really think that those football players in Steubenville, for instance, completely ignored what their victim was wearing or how she presented herself before they assaulted her? Do you really think they went out of their way to "target" or tag her as being "submissive" in any particular sense?

    Knowing High school aged boys, I really kind of doubt it.



    Perhaps, but exceptions to this general rule are going to be so rare as to be barely even worth mentioning.
    Why are you still arguing about this? I thought you agreed that clothing played a negligible role in rape?

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    There are certain sexual cues that basically all men tend to be drawn towards. A reasonably attractive woman showing a lot of skin, or wearing extremely tight clothing, is going to grab basically any man's attention regardless of whatever other superficial preferences he might happen to carry.

    For instance, I don't think you'll find a man alive who would find this woman to be blatantly unattractive, even if she wasn't necessarily his "type."

    My God! How many women do you think run around out in public like that? She looks like a street whore.

    Most women are NOT going to dress like that in public because people might mistake them for prostitutes, seriously.

    Do you think women are completely CLUELESS?

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    In most cases where you are dealing with violent or serial rapists, this true. However, those are not all cases.

    Do you really think that those football players in Steubenville, for instance, completely ignored what their victim was wearing or how she presented herself before they assaulted her? Do you really think they went out of their way to "target" or tag her as being "submissive" in any particular sense?

    Knowing High school aged boys, I really kind of doubt it.



    Perhaps, but exceptions to this general rule are going to be so rare as to be barely even worth mentioning.
    Obviously you have not known many truly racist people.

    Unfortunately, I have.

    And many of them will state their revulsion for women (whom I consider) stunningly gorgeous looking...just because of the melanin content of their skin (too much or not enough).

    Never underestimate the power of emotional instability...or flat out stupidity.

    And the above is just one (sad) example of how emotions can cloud judgement.
    Last edited by DA60; 02-19-14 at 11:02 PM.

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