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  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    1 0.98%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    28 27.45%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    6 5.88%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    56 54.90%
  • Other

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I guess I would. However, given the scenario you provided, I wouldn't have any reason to suspect he might be up to no good in the first place.
    ... And who's to say that if he did try flirting with you for a few seconds you wouldn't have brushed it off? After all...what are the odds? Oh and some men....They don't give off any flirtatious warning signs either.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Let's just agree that, just like with any individuals, different rapists might be attracted to different multiple variable things. As such, to place "responsibility" on the victim because of her clothing is preposterous!

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Do you think when women go out on dates, they expect to be raped by their date?
    If a guy just rapes you out of the blue without warning, there's not exactly a whole lot you can do about that.

    However, that wasn't really what I was talking about here in the first place. I was talking about circumstances that a woman actually can control.

    Anyone is capable of, and ideally should, moderate their behavior, environment, substance consumption, company, and style of dress. That's simple common sense.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Girl, what if he smelled good AND his clothes matched? It's all over... Lol
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Then they should do it. Hell, I wouldn't convict them if I was on the jury and that is why she did it. If women started tying rapist to chairs and feeding them their genitals that the woman just cut off, there would be a lot less rapist in the world. If she needs to learn how to get them into the chair, Dexter and lots of movies give really good workable solutions.
    But then they have to court and PROVE that they were raped somehow.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    It is our current culture, which is exactly what most young people base their ideas of "acceptable behavior" off of.

    The simple fact of the matter is that restraint, safety, and personal responsibility really aren't ideas that are in vogue right now. What young people are most often encouraged to live is a modern re-enactment of Sodom and Gomorrah.



    I never said that we should. I said that our culture has a very flawed way at looking at sexuality among young people, and that this can have a tendency to exacerbate problems like date rape.



    Again, Chris, clothing and behavior can be, and often are contributing factors to the circumstances leading up to sexual assaults and date rape.

    If women want to be safe, they have to acknowledge this reality, and plan accordingly.

    Quibbling around with "blame games" isn't productive. The simple fact of the matter is that a young woman out on the town needs to be in control of her behavior and take precautions to ensure her own safety.
    Exactly because the only person to "blame" is the person who cannot control himself, the rapist. The victim is NOT responsible for being raped.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    If a guy just rapes you out of the blue without warning, there's not exactly a whole lot you can do about that.

    However, that wasn't really what I was talking about here in the first place. I was talking about circumstances that a woman actually can control.

    Anyone is capable of, and ideally should, moderate their behavior, environment, substance consumption, company, and style of dress. That's simple common sense.
    They CAN, but if they choose not to or do not for some reason, that does not mean they should be held responsible when another person commits a crime against them. We don't do that with ANY other crimes.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Again, Chris, clothing and behavior can be, and often are contributing factors to the circumstances leading up to sexual assaults and date rape.

    If women want to be safe, they have to acknowledge this reality, and plan accordingly.

    Quibbling around with "blame games" isn't productive. The simple fact of the matter is that a young woman out on the town needs to be in control of her behavior and take precautions to ensure her own safety.
    IT is NOT a reality - that's the whole problem here with this - it is NOT a reality. It is BULL****.

    It's a MYTH.

    It is not REAL.

    It means NOTHING.

    It won't save a woman from being raped no matter WHAT.

    Okay?

    The sooner you accept that it's bull**** the sooner you can move on to accepting the REAL issues to ward against and be on the lookout for.

    Myth Women who are sexually assaulted 'ask for it' by the way they dress or act, rape only happens to young women.

    Fact Many women are led to believe that if they are not part of a certain category of women then they are 'safe' from being raped. Women and girls of all ages, classes, culture, ability, sexuality, race and faith are raped. Attractiveness has little significance. Reports show that there is a great diversity in the way targeted women act or dress. Rapists choose women based on their vulnerability not their physical appearance.

    Sometimes women see themselves as 'unworthy' or 'undesirable' because of their age or physical appearance and therefore 'safe' from rape. Some men joke or make comments about women's appearances or age to indicate whether she is sexually desirable or available, or as part of their defence in court, saying he thought 'he was doing her a favour', using her appearance or age. Women are raped from the age of three to ninety three. Rape is an act of violence not sex.
    Okay - get that? Can you READ THAT? OLD GRANNIES and LITTLE GIRLS get raped wearing moomoos and scummy clothes.

    Just because some asshole rapist says "SHE WAS DRESSED SEXILY" doesn't mean ****. Why in the **** are you buying into it? Goddamn - get the **** past that. It's like a curb that's two inches high. Holy ****!
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    But then they have to court and PROVE that they were raped somehow.
    Nah, if they are willing to go that far and actually do it, I'll take their word for it.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    ... And who's to say that if he did try flirting with you for a few seconds you wouldn't have brushed it off? After all...what are the odds? Oh and some men....They don't give off any flirtatious warning signs either.
    Okay, but I was never suggesting that women were to blame for their rapes anyway.

    I was simply saying that there are certain precautions a woman can take to make her less vulnerable to certain kinds of rapes. They should be encouraged to make use of them whenever possible, and not evade the subject by being told that men can be counted on to control themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Let's just agree that, just like with any individuals, different rapists might be attracted to different multiple variable things. As such, to place "responsibility" on the victim because of her clothing is preposterous!
    That's all I was saying in the first place.

    Not all rapists are obvious creeps, or have even necessarily raped before. There are a lot of different factors that can push a man over the edge in this regard.

    Assuming that they're all just power-tripping masterminds deliberately scoping out targets is a bit nave, IMO. Sometimes rapes escalate out of simple misunderstandings with horny and intoxicated men who aren't very receptive to hearing the word "no."

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