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  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    1 0.98%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    28 27.45%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    6 5.88%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    56 54.90%
  • Other

    11 10.78%
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Yes the culture is changing and is always changing...what was wrong is now right,and what was right is now wrong. Let's make this more relatable to you since most men can't relate to rape or the fear of being raped. Let's say you have a gay buddy, and he is open about it to everyone. Let's say you guys go out to a sports bar and watch a game. You have a beer or two but not enough to get you drunk. Your friend parks his car at your house but doesn't feel like driving home so he asks to stay at your place. You say sure, and you both go to different rooms for the night. Let's say 10 min later he comes to your room and starts putting on the moves and talking about how good you looked tonight. You tell him he needs to back off but b/c he is bigger and stronger than you, he overpowers you! You have just been raped and now you can't tell anyone b/c after all YOU gave him permission to stay at your house and you KNEW that he was gay. Who is to blame in this situation? Were you being irresponsible?
    Excellent contrast concept. Seems entirely ABSURD to suggest the victim, here, did anything wrong.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Actually any man could answer this, not just gath. Btw- I used the gay friend comparison b/c it's equivalent to a female letting a male friend spend the night!
    Serious response, I'd rather be beaten to death than have what you describe happen. Maybe I couldn't do anything right at that time, but I sincerely believe that my response would ultimately be a violent one, perhaps a very violent one.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Lol! And if he was wearing a really tight shirt and tight jeans that were, ahem, accentuating, then he would be enticing the gay man.
    Girl, what if he smelled good AND his clothes matched? It's all over... Lol

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The claim regarding date rape is common sense. There simply wouldn't have been any opportunity for it to really occur prior to the explosion of "bar and club" style sexuality among youth demographics in the latter half of the twentieth century.

    I'm also not suggesting that we do go back to the 1950s. I'm suggesting that people behave responsibly and not encourage behavior or attitudes which will simply lead to trouble.



    You're kidding, right?



    A lot of people coming up these days basically think this is how they are expected to act (keep in mind that this is the "PG" trailer as well, the actual movie is about 1000X worse).

    Ever seen one of MTV's Spring Break specials?

    Trying to interject with something like, "oh, hey, and remember to be safe" in the middle of that simply comes off as being laughably stupid to most young people.



    I'm sorry, but this is simply out of touch with basic reality.
    That is a movie. I suppose you want censorship too. We are NOT going back to the 1950s. DEAL.

    Look Gathomas, the bottom line is that it doesn't matter how a woman dresses but more on how she behaves. Plenty of women go out wearing sexy clothes and are NOT raped, and plenty of more frumpy-dressing women do get raped, so that standard doesn't hold water.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    So you wouldn't take any of the responsibility for letting him spend the night?
    I guess I would. However, given the scenario you provided, I wouldn't have any reason to suspect he might be up to no good in the first place.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Girl, what if he smelled good AND his clothes matched? It's all over... Lol
    Then he'd be FABULOUSLY tempting!

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I guess I would. However, given the scenario you provided, I wouldn't have any reason to suspect he might be up to no good in the first place.
    Do you think when women go out on dates, they expect to be raped by their date?

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Serious response, I'd rather be beaten to death than have what you describe happen. Maybe I couldn't do anything right at that time, but I sincerely believe that my response would ultimately be a violent one, perhaps a very violent one.
    Thanks for being honest. Being or feeling helpless is not fun, and then to have to second guess everything you did up to that point even when you did nothing wrong is not fun either! I was trying to drive that point home in a way both genders can relate!

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is a movie.
    It is our current culture, which is exactly what most young people base their ideas of "acceptable behavior" off of.

    The simple fact of the matter is that restraint, safety, and personal responsibility really aren't ideas that are in vogue right now. What young people are most often encouraged to live is a modern re-enactment of Sodom and Gomorrah.

    I suppose you want censorship too. We are NOT going back to the 1950s. DEAL.
    I never said that we should. I said that our culture has a very flawed way at looking at sexuality among young people, and that this can have a tendency to exacerbate problems like date rape.

    Look Gathomas, the bottom line is that it doesn't matter how a woman dresses but more on how she behaves. Plenty of women go out wearing sexy clothes and are NOT raped, and plenty of more frumpy-dressing women do get raped, so that standard doesn't hold water.
    Again, Chris, clothing and behavior can be, and often are contributing factors to the circumstances leading up to sexual assaults and date rape.

    If women want to be safe, they have to acknowledge this reality, and plan accordingly.

    Quibbling around with "blame games" isn't productive. The simple fact of the matter is that a young woman out on the town needs to be in control of her behavior and take precautions to ensure her own safety.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And that is exactly how women who are raped feel. And then they have to go to a trial and be BLAMED because of how they were dressed.
    Then they should do it. Hell, I wouldn't convict them if I was on the jury and that is why she did it. If women started tying rapist to chairs and feeding them their genitals that the woman just cut off, there would be a lot less rapist in the world. If she needs to learn how to get them into the chair, Dexter and lots of movies give really good workable solutions.
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