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Rape and Clothing

Rape and clothing correlation

  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    Votes: 24 26.4%

  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    Votes: 5 5.5%

  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    Votes: 52 57.1%

  • Other

    Votes: 10 11.0%
  • Total voters
    91
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Gathomas88 said:
I really don't think things are quite that simple.

Some rapes simply escalate out of misunderstandings.
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Any guy who can get 'escalated' to the point of rape is going to go off sooner or later- it's just a lottery which woman is his first victim.
 
ChrisL said:
IF a rapist is profiling a victim, he would be looking for a woman who he could easily manipulate and control, someone who he thinks won't put up a huge fight, but he wouldn't be profiling women by their clothing.
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Again, not all rapes start with the man having the deliberate intention to rape his victim. The lines occasionally blur after the fact, which might result in the rape being more of a crime of passion.

In any case, the reality that suggestive clothing often plays a role in how men profile women isn't up for debate. It is a self-evident fact.

Do you really think that the kind of men who would be inclined to rape women are going to ignore this?

Why are you so derogatory towards women anyway? Calling them "slutty" and other such names. Those women are PEOPLE you know!
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Do we really have to do this again, Chris? :roll:

We just finished one of these bitchfests in that other thread about Yoga pants only yesterday! :lol:
 
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Grand Mal said:
Any guy who can get 'escalated' to the point of rape is going to go off sooner or later- it's just a lottery which woman is his first victim.
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All the more reason for women to take care not to be the victim a potential rapist eventually "goes off" on.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Unless it never happens (which most certainly is not the case), it absolutely cannot be discounted.

For that matter, since when is date rape not rape?
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I would say that it would happen anyways. If she's wearing revealing clothing, maybe he would be more "turned on" but if he was planning on raping this person, then he's going to do it regardless of what she's wearing.

Do you actually think a rapist is going to say, "oh, well that woman's clothing is not as revealing as that other woman's clothing over there, so she's my victim." I REALLY don't think that's how they target victims. In fact, I'm thinking they might even tend to avoid a person who has the self confidence enough to wear certain clothing because they don't want a victim who has a lot of self-confidence and who would potentially give a good fight. I think a lot of times a rapist, if targeting a victim, would tend to go for a more demurely dressed mousy-type of woman.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Again, not all rapes start with the man having the deliberate intention to rape his victim. The lines occasionally blur after the fact, which might result in the rape being more of a crime of passion.

In any case, the reality that suggestive clothing often plays a role in how men profile women isn't up for debate. It is a self-evident fact.

Do you really think that the kind of men who would be inclined to rape women are going to ignore this?



Do we really have to do this again, Chris? :roll:

We just finished one of these bitchfests in that other thread about Yoga pants only yesterday! :lol:
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Unless you can PROVE your claims, then they don't mean anything. Like I've said, I've NEVER heard of a rapist who targeted "women in slutty clothes."
 
Grand Mal said:
Any guy who can get 'escalated' to the point of rape is going to go off sooner or later- it's just a lottery which woman is his first victim.
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I totally agree with that.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Do we really have to do this again, Chris? :roll:

We just finished one of these bitchfests in that other thread about Yoga pants only yesterday! :lol:
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Yes we do. Every time you call a woman a "slut" because of how she is dressed, I am going to call you out.
 
Gathomas88 said:
All the more reason for women to take care not to be the victim a potential rapist eventually "goes off" on.
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What am I gonna do with you :doh
 
Gathomas88 said:
All the more reason for women to take care not to be the victim a potential rapist eventually "goes off" on.
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All the more reason for WOMEN to have to live in fear of men and to NOT wear clothing that they choose? Because they have to be afraid that some douchebag might rape them because of their clothes?
 
herenow1 said:
Since posters are getting upset that the yoga thread keeps getting derailed I will ask this here. Do you think most (true cases- not made up, let's not turn this into he said she said discussion) people who get raped are wearing revealing clothing?
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Generally clothes don't make a lick of difference. A rapist isn't necessarily interested in appearance. It's more of a power thing.

As an aside, when it comes to date rape the clothing probably has a lot more to do with things though more the targeting part than the actual rape part.
 
I think I asked a fair question. Where does the caution to exercise sensible precaution cross over into victim blaming?
 
ChrisL said:
I would say that it would happen anyways. If she's wearing revealing clothing, maybe he would be more "turned on" but if he was planning on raping this person, then he's going to do it regardless of what she's wearing.

Do you actually think a rapist is going to say, "oh, well that woman's clothing is not as revealing as that other woman's clothing over there, so she's my victim." I REALLY don't think that's how they target victims. In fact, I'm thinking they might even tend to avoid a person who has the self confidence enough to wear certain clothing because they don't want a victim who has a lot of self-confidence and who would potentially give a good fight. I think a lot of times a rapist, if targeting a victim, would tend to go for a more demurely dressed mousy-type of woman.
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In many cases, yes. In a lot of other cases, no.

Again, we already know damn well that clothing and behavior can play a role in some cases of date rape. Frankly, even in cases of pure opportunity, suggestive clothing hardly helps matters.

If a man goes walking through a bad inner city neighborhood at night, sure, he might get mugged. However, do you really think that he wouldn't be any more likely to be mugged if he did so in a tux while visibly shuffling through a wallet stuffed with $100 bills?

Why risk it?

ChrisL said:
Unless you can PROVE your claims, then they don't mean anything. Like I've said, I've NEVER heard of a rapist who targeted "women in slutty clothes."
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Where do you think the "she was asking for it" defense came from in the first place, Chris?

ChrisL said:
Yes we do. Every time you call a woman a "slut" because of how she is dressed, I am going to call you out.
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Did you not notice my usage of "quotation marks" around the word? :roll:
 
Cardinal said:
I think I asked a fair question. Where does the caution to exercise sensible precaution cross over into victim blaming?
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I think it ALWAYS does because I don't think it really plays that much of a role at ALL in rape, unless it's date rape, and then it STILL is not the woman's fault in any way. There is just NO excuse. If a guy gets THAT worked up, then he needs to go jerk off or something.
 
Cardinal said:
I think I asked a fair question. Where does the caution to exercise sensible precaution cross over into victim blaming?
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For some people, at the beginning.

Apparently if you get carjacked at night in a bad neighborhood, it's not your fault for driving through it in a Lexus.
 
ChrisL said:
All the more reason for WOMEN to have to live in fear of men and to NOT wear clothing that they choose? Because they have to be afraid that some douchebag might rape them because of their clothes?
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Take your own chances, Chris. :shrug:

I'm just saying that certain activities and styles of dress are pretty much always going to increase the level of risk at which a woman puts herself.

If she is willing to accept that risk, so be it. If not, however; I would suggest that she be more careful.
 
ChrisL said:
I think it ALWAYS does because I don't think it really plays that much of a role at ALL in rape, unless it's date rape, and then it STILL is not the woman's fault in any way. There is just NO excuse. If a guy gets THAT worked up, then he needs to go jerk off or something.
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I'm not referring to the role of the rapist -- it's assumed that he's in the wrong. Are you saying that at absolutely no point are we allowed to even observe that the victim may not have exercised adequate caution?
 
Gathomas88 said:
In many cases, yes. In a lot of other cases, no.

Again, we already know damn well that clothing and behavior can play a role in some cases of date rape. Frankly, even in cases of pure opportunity, suggestive clothing hardly helps matters.

If a man goes walking through a bad inner city neighborhood at night, sure, he might get mugged. However, do you really think that he wouldn't be any more likely to be mugged if he did so in a tux while visibly shuffling through a wallet stuffed with $100 bills?

Why risk it?
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Because you don't give up your freedom for security! I think BEHAVIOR plays much more of a role in date rape or other rapes than what a woman is wearing at the time. A woman can be wearing next to nothing, but if she doesn't allow herself to be put into a spot where she is vulnerable, then she more than likely would not even get raped. Another woman could be wearing a darn snowsuit, but if she goes off ALONE with some stranger, THEN she is putting herself at risk I would agree. It's NOT the clothing though unless you put yourself at risk to begin with.

Don't tell women they can't wear certain clothing! You tell them how to be smart while they are out.

Where do you think the "she was asking for it" defense came from in the first place, Chris?
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I don't think that is a valid defense because people have smartened up thankfully.
 
The usual suspects in YOGA 2.0 .
 
Gathomas88 said:
If the sign says "beware of dog," is your first inclination going to be to jump the fence? :lol:
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If there was a "beware of rapist" sign this probably wouldn't be an issue.
 
Cardinal said:
I'm not referring to the role of the rapist -- it's assumed that he's in the wrong. Are you saying that at absolutely no point are we allowed to even observe that the victim may not have exercised adequate caution?
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I think that sometimes women do stupid things that might put themselves at greater risk, yes; but so has everyone at one point or another in their lives, and that in no way excuses the rape. There is NO excuse. It is a crime and violation of another person. I don't care what the person did. I can't think of ONE situation in which I would actually "blame" the woman for a man's decision to rape her.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Take your own chances, Chris. :shrug:

I'm just saying that certain activities and styles of dress are pretty much always going to increase the level of risk at which a woman puts herself.

If she is willing to accept that risk, so be it. If not, however; I would suggest that she be more careful.
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Activities and stupid decisions, yes. Manner of dress? No, not if you're smart.
 
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