View Poll Results: Rape and clothing correlation

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  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    1 0.98%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    28 27.45%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    6 5.88%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    56 54.90%
  • Other

    11 10.78%
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is not accurate because it's a matter of opinion, and is in no way an indicator of consent to sex. IMO, it is fine if a defense attorney wants to use her behavior as an indicator, such as she was sitting in his lap all night and kissing on him and things like that. But just because a woman is wearing a short skirt does NOT indicate anything to do with her consenting to sex or not.

    On that note, we should be able to use in the case for the prosecution that "she was dressed conservatively" so obviously she did NOT want sex and he obviously must have raped her. What's good for the goose . . . .
    I think you are confusing the accuracy of the scene presented with the jury's interpretation of the scene. A court can control how accurately the scene is presented, but cannot do a thing about how individual jurist interpret it.

    Um, "dressed conservatively", at least to me doesn't actually tell me how she was dressed. But "conservatively" or "slutty", the jury should be given the description. Hopefully more accurately than using those type of words.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    After those words, my vision blurred and I couldn't read any more.
    Typical and not surprising.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    As you did, unless you're in the habit of quoting those who have no interest in your feedback.
    Or you could clarify how your rambling points actually relate to her post - because they still don't match up. You're all in a tizzy, apparently over nothing. If you want to have a one-sided spazz attack rather than take a moment to clarify then by all means . . . go ahead.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Typical and not surprising.
    Sorry, still can't read.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Sorry, still can't read.
    apparently not - are you Gipper2? Incapable of responding to anything without turning it into some rambling bit of sexist bull****? Because he's on my ****list for being a perpetual douche.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    This conversation is not about what happens in a court room.
    It is a necessary part of this conversation. how a woman acts before a "date rape" is an important issue in determining who told the truth as to whether consent or buyer's remorse is in play



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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post


    It's not too far from the truth.

    "There's a beast in every man..."

    Most of us can keep things more or less together, but there are many who cannot. Those men are not going to be going anywhere any time soon.

    Women need to be wary of them for exactly that reason.

    Frankly, I don't really understand why it is so offensive to suggest that women not behave like irresponsible flakes anyway.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I think you are confusing the accuracy of the scene presented with the jury's interpretation of the scene. A court can control how accurately the scene is presented, but cannot do a thing about how individual jurist interpret it.

    Um, "dressed conservatively", at least to me doesn't actually tell me how she was dressed. But "conservatively" or "slutty", the jury should be given the description. Hopefully more accurately than using those type of words.
    it's irrelevant and has no place in the discussion.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    are you Gipper2?
    I'm not actually a boob guy, I was just making a joke. Don't be so mean.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I think you are confusing the accuracy of the scene presented with the jury's interpretation of the scene. A court can control how accurately the scene is presented, but cannot do a thing about how individual jurist interpret it.

    Um, "dressed conservatively", at least to me doesn't actually tell me how she was dressed. But "conservatively" or "slutty", the jury should be given the description. Hopefully more accurately than using those type of words.
    I'm not confusing anything. It is wrong of the jury to judge a person based upon their clothing.

    Good Lord! I'm sure you can figure out (for the purposes of THIS discussion) what "conservative" versus "slutty" dressing means.

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