I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases
I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing
I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire
I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape
The OP seems to be suggesting that rapists are planning to rape and then choose a victim. The majority of rapes are committed by people known to the victim. They have personal relationships, sometimes romantic, sometimes familial, sometimes professional. They are the result not of a momentary stimulus, but of a preexisting situation.
The image of a stranger in a dark alley just doesn't square with reality.
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Well... let me expound a little bit about what I mean. It's not really so much about clothing, though that can be a part of it...
I have a bud who is chief of campus police at a major university. Well guess what: his office has seen a lot of rape cases over the years. We've talked about it a bit, here's what he's telling me.
A lot of these college girls go out to party in small groups, dressed very sexy, and get ****faced wasted in places where they don't really know many of the people there. Not too uncommonly they are found in a back room with their clothes in disarray and only vague memories of what happened.
His office's advice to young women on campus? Don't get so drunk/high that your judgment is shot; if you simply MUST party that way, be careful to do so only around people you know well and trust implicitly, and do not allow unfamiliar persons to lead you away from the group to somewhere out of sight of your friends.
They have to be VERY careful in how they dispense this very good advice, though, lest they run afoul of the more extreme variety of campus feminist who insist that any limitations on a woman's behavior is being an apologist for rape.
Personally, I think it is a great pity that good common-sense advice can't be given without it being misconstrued in that manner.
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In the republicon party rape can be viewed a legitimate or illegitamate.
I am still trying to figure this one out...
Early voting in Georgia. On the 20th of October this old Goldwater conservative voted against both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton by casting my vote for Gary Johnson. Neither Trump or Clinton belong within a million miles of the Oval Office.
There is a crazy disconnect happening here. There are two conversations that are getting comingled to the extent that it's detracting from both of them. Both have merit and deserve discussion. Which was my main point earlier (when I was told I made a bad interpretation of things). Apparently I did not because it's playing out right here in this very thread.
1. Rape. Why does it happen? A number of reasons but it's never the fault of the victim. I don't see really any disagreement here.
2. Personal safety. Avoiding situations that are likely to become dangerous. In the vast majority of cases this will not save you from being raped. But it's common sense and a discussion worth having. Nobody can protect you if you don't protect yourself first. I don't see really any disagreement here either.
But somehow, when these things are discussed as one topic it goes off the rails. It looks like a bunch of things are getting lost in the translation of thoughts to type written word. The intent is getting covered up in the avalanche of people going for their guns. I think some people are deliberately itching for a fight on this topic, which while not surprising, is still ridiculous.
Last edited by Lerxst; 02-18-14 at 08:26 PM.