View Poll Results: Rape and clothing correlation

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  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    1 0.98%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    28 27.45%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    6 5.88%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    56 54.90%
  • Other

    11 10.78%
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Thread: Rape and Clothing

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't think it makes any difference what someone's wearing...for the most part. I think there are exceptions. I also think women are inviting dangerous attention when they are wearing ****-me clothes.

    I think you're right.

    I know the mantra these days is "its not about sex, its about power". Well, it is about power exercised sexually, if you like... any way you slice it, sex is involved. Not normal healthy sex, it is messed up evil sex, but sexual nonetheless.

    I think rapists probably come in more than one flavor. One kind probably is all about power, and punishing women for some reason, making them suffer, etc.

    But I'm pretty damn sure there's a Type II for whom it is more about sex. Messed-up evil sex, sure, but sex. The sort that thinks "I want to **** her, she'd never get with me in a million years but I'm going to **** her anyway whether she wants it or not!" This is more the date-rape type than the stalker type, but I'm reasonably certain this type DOES exist... and that in some cases his mind turns to forcible rape AFTER first getting turned-on...


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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Haven't read the whole thread, just first and last page... but let me take a WILD ASS GUESS...


    Someone, probably male, dared to imply that there were things a woman might avoid doing that might reduce her chances of being raped.


    This person was then dogpiled and told they were excusing rape, apologizing for the rapist, attempting to disempower women, etc etc.


    Good guess?
    I agree that there are obviously precautions women can take. I think carrying a gun/weapon would be the first precaution. I also agree that women shouldn't be walking alone in unsavory neighborhoods, but I don't know of any women who would be dumb enough to do that, especially since rape is one of the things women fear the most. Also sometimes women do get lost, and might find themselves in one of these places...certainly not their fault. I just didn't like the insinuation that yoga pants can be a turn on and a woman might find herself harmed b/c she wears them.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    You completely missed my point.
    Just as you missed mine. I'm not going to explain again because you seem incapable of thinking outside of your little liberal box.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Haven't read the whole thread, just first and last page... but let me take a WILD ASS GUESS...


    Someone, probably male, dared to imply that there were things a woman might avoid doing that might reduce her chances of being raped.


    This person was then dogpiled and told they were excusing rape, apologizing for the rapist, attempting to disempower women, etc etc.


    Good guess?
    Well someone actually said that if a woman dresses provacatively, she actually asked for it therefor it's not rape. Like you, I haven't read much beyond that so I don't know if it was a serious comment or not, but FTR, it is a position with which I strongly disagree.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Just as you missed mine. I'm not going to explain again because you seem incapable of thinking outside of your little liberal box.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't think it makes any difference what someone's wearing...for the most part. I think there are exceptions. I also think women are inviting dangerous attention when they are wearing ****-me clothes.
    Ooh Maggie please - women never go out wearing ****me clothes!

    Look at your gorgeous avatar - I'm assuming it's you? Now all I see is a beautiful woman. However, I'm old enough to remember a time when certain narrow minded people would have said that your red lipstick was provocative, asking for it. It used to be known as prostitute red. Now we've moved on, thankfully, to knowing that that's a bull$hit argument. And so is the idea that there are ****me clothes. Some women dress like that out of insecurity, naïvety or simply because they like it. They don't deserve to be raped and shouldn't be blamed for it if they are. Please let's not talk about ****me clothes; or rapists will always have their excuse. In some communities that very kind of argument keeps women under burqas.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I agree that there are obviously precautions women can take. I think carrying a gun/weapon would be the first precaution.
    The first precaution is not to put yourself in risky atmospheres. The "first precaution" is hardly carrying a gun.

    I also agree that women shouldn't be walking alone in unsavory neighborhoods, but I don't know of any women who would be dumb enough to do that, especially since rape is one of the things women fear the most. Also sometimes women do get lost, and might find themselves in one of these places...certainly not their fault. I just didn't like the insinuation that yoga pants can be a turn on and a woman might find herself harmed b/c she wears them.
    Unsavory neighborhoods? I agree. What sane woman does that? And yet. An enclosed parking garage very late at night...parked-around-the-corner-from-the-club late at night...using a large parking lot as a meeting/drop-off place late at night...getting into an elevator with someone who makes the hairs on your neck stand up...using stairwells...all of these things are done by women every single day of the week. Risky behavior, in my opinion.

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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    Ooh Maggie please - women never go out wearing ****me clothes!

    Look at your gorgeous avatar - I'm assuming it's you? Now all I see is a beautiful woman. However, I'm old enough to remember a time when certain narrow minded people would have said that your red lipstick was provocative, asking for it. It used to be known as prostitute red. Now we've moved on, thankfully, to knowing that that's a bull$hit argument. And so is the idea that there are ****me clothes. Some women dress like that out of insecurity, naïvety or simply because they like it. They don't deserve to be raped and shouldn't be blamed for it if they are. Please let's not talk about ****me clothes; or rapists will always have their excuse. In some communities that very kind of argument keeps women under burqas.
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    We should bring in Ted Nugent since he is back in the news and could comment on Rape.
    Oh wait, he's campaigning for GOP gubernatorial candidate Abbott in Texas.
    Abbott says he was unaware of Nugent's rages on stage against BHO with a gun, and all the rest .
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    Re: Rape and Clothing

    Rape is a crime of violence, power and control that just happens to be sexual by it's means.
    Clothing on the victim has very little or nothing to do with why men rape.

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