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    Re: Poll for men only please, regarding sex with younger women

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    You must be as old as me, lol.
    I haven't hit the big 5 oh yet, but it is less than a year and a half away.

    I personally don't think there is anything wrong with young/old relationships. But below a certain age, I just don't know what they would have in common or even how they communicate these days. I have nephews that are still teenagers and for the life of me I swear sometimes they are speaking some alien tongue, not English. Also, their energy level would kill me trying to keep up with them.

    Nope, those young women may be pretty to look at, but to me at least, looking at is about all they are good for.
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    Re: Poll for men only please, regarding sex with younger women

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Lets face it, low 20 something men are not exactly the most mature of individuals.
    Wait, what? If a 16 year old girl doesn't find a 20 something man mature, then she would have better luck finding a mature boyfriend in her same-age peer group? I know that I'm missing something in the conversation here.

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    Re: Poll for men only please, regarding sex with younger women

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No plans, but you're married. I don't do married.
    I had almost no restrictions in my past other than I did not do "married" OR those involved with someone else, no virgins and no teens - because those seemed both wrong AND unwise. Nor was I attracted to "innocence" or "youth" generally (some exception I suppose since I married innocent youth - though resisted for over a year and not until she turned 20 and then not until married), because among other things beside being wrong because they were young or with someone else, but also because I figured they more easily harmed, probably not very skilled, and not very strong emotionally. Nor did I want to find myself in a fight with another man over a women IF she was with him. If not? Then possibly if that his choice.

    I have changed/evolved in many ways. While I was very cautious to obtain very, very clear consent, in general I was not a gentle person, not a nice guy, and I was not a nice, gentle lover. It had nothing to do with love or respect to me back then. I wished the woman to at least not all broken up about it if she didn't like how it went after consent was given. She could be pissed off if that how she felt, but I didn't want her to feel destroyed or ruined somehow. So if an experienced harden woman furious cursed me out? Well, I guess it didn't go how she hoped. Someone throwing away her marriage of some innocent or youth teen sobbing away or deciding she was completely in love with me and I putting her out have gotten what I wanted and now only hope she goes away? No way.

    What is the answer of those saying "sure, a 23 year old with a 15 year old" is fine, when that 15 year old decides she is totally and desperately in love with him and goes suicidal when he doesn't want her anymore? Sadly, there men for which that would particularly stroke his ego. Some men want to conquer and ruin a woman in some power or possessiveness sense. Taking another man's wife to belittle him and/or wreck her life is a big thrill to some men. They also would get their kicked out of messing of young girls too.

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    Re: Poll for men only please, regarding sex with younger women

    When I was 27 I met and fell in love with a 19 year old. We are together still today and he will be 30 very soon. It was difficult with that age gap. Somebody younger, that would likely not be possible. Theonly reason it worked between Evan and I is because we were madly in love.
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    Re: Poll for men only please, regarding sex with younger women

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    When I was in that age range it went something like this.

    When in high school - you could date a high school chick, but not a junior high school chick.
    A senior guy in high school would never date a freshman girl either.

    When in college - you dated a college chick, but not a high school chick.

    A college kid dating a high schooler was called "Chester". Chester the molester.

    So a 20 year old "man" would never knowingly date or score with a a 16 year old "girl".


    However - a 30 year old guy hittin a 23 or 24 year old.......hell, a 40 year old guy hittin a 25 year old.....is that okay or not?
    Frankly, I think that's exactly the issue here.

    I really don't believe that most of this has to do with the actual "maturity levels" involved, so much as the way our society has "institutionalized" the process of growing up. We've basically got everyone divided into little boxes determined by their age group.

    Mid to late teens, everyone's stuck in the "High School" box. As such, the only people they really interact with socially are young adults in their own age range. After that point, they move on to the "college" box, where they mostly interact with people of that age. These two groups each have their own distinct "culture," and any real interaction between them is generally something that a person has to deliberately go out of their way to break social norms to seek out, as it requires finding environments for socialization outside of their age group's usual preference.

    The horizons don't really broaden to include the whole rest of the playing field until a person gets out of school entirely and joins the post-grad labor force.

    In the past, this really wouldn't have been the case. Most people would have lived in fairly small and insular communities, where pretty much everyone knew and interacted with everyone else, and a great deal of education wouldn't have been necessary to ensure professional success. As such, there really wouldn't have been much of an artificially enforced distinction between twenty somethings and teens. They all would've simply been considered to be young, post-pubescent unmarried persons.

    Under those circumstances, where no real social or cultural distinction between the age groups in question could've been said to exist, having a 16 year old "farmer's daughter" hook up with a 23 year old butcher or baker's son really wouldn't have been that strange at all. It would've even been desirable, as the community would already pretty much know the character of the man in question, and he would generally be a bit more established by that age anyway.

    The fear that he was simply some "predator" out looking to score nave teeny bopper tail wouldn't really have been a factor.
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    Re: Poll for men only please, regarding sex with younger women

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    When I was 27 I met and fell in love with a 19 year old. We are together still today and he will be 30 very soon. It was difficult with that age gap. Somebody younger, that would likely not be possible. Theonly reason it worked between Evan and I is because we were madly in love.
    I can relate to that. Her 19 and looking 15. I 28 looking 35. Who resisted was me, because of her youth and innocence. She knew exactly what she was doing, wanted, and why. It took over a year for me to realize it. But the reality was we were totally infatuated with each other from the very start and this had never changed.

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    Re: Poll for men only please, regarding sex with younger women

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    An Islamist would disagree vehemently.
    No doubt.
    They have to be ready to control those 72 virgins, after all.
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    Re: Poll for men only please, regarding sex with younger women

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    As such, there really wouldn't have been much of an artificially enforced distinction between twenty somethings and teens. They all would've simply been considered to be young, post-pubescent unmarried persons.
    I think that teen culture is toxic. I think that hook-up culture at college is damaging to young women. If I could impose my preference on my daughters' romantic lives and I had to make a choice between the following two scenarios:

    1.) Same age (17) male who is a typical young man; or
    2.) A 24 or 26 year old young man who I knew for some time, who I thought was of good character, who I thought my daughter would find appealing and thought would be good for my daughter;

    Then I would choose #2.

    Notice the disparity in the descriptions. Not any 20+ guy is OK, it has to be a guy who I know, or believe, won't harm my daughter, will have good influence on my daughter, who my daughter would find attractive and who she would admire and have fun with and who could open her eyes to new experiences.

    I suppose the problem is allowing young girls to choose the 20+ year old guys. Now the issue becomes the criteria by which they're choosing such young men and the motives, and character, of the young men.

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    Re: Poll for men only please, regarding sex with younger women

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Lets face it, low 20 something men are not exactly the most mature of individuals.
    No, most of us don't make our best decisions at that age.
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