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    Re: Free Internet!

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Even the Chinese can't effectively monitor their populations Internet usage. They download a free program called Putty, which they use to set up a free shell account and use SSH tunneling to encrypt and port their connection. That bypasses censorship and bandwidth throttling.

    But it would definitely start some courtroom battles, between telecom companies and them.
    I would say they are pretty effective at it, they successfully control a large majority of it.

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    Re: Free Internet!

    You can't get the speed from satellite, sorry. It's just not possible and the latency is horrible. It's like the dial-up of broadband and you can be sure they're spamming users with advertising too, just like the free dial-up providers did back in the day. So no, I wouldn't.
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    Re: Free Internet!

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Again, naysayers who don't bother reading the articles or links.

    They're expecting $millions in contributions
    just like most scams... promising something that they cant deliver..

    and they're using 100's of small, low orbit, cube satellites.
    And how they gonna pay for them, let alone get them up there? Plus low orbit, means they have to go up against military and spy satellites. How about frequencies? That is government controlled and it wont be allowed if it inter-fears with say GPS or other signals. Look at that system that got killed off because it in 1% of cases maybe gave problems to GPS systems. There a ton of unanswered questions.

    I don't think the websites can control content thru connections that easily. Now, TV Networks or other entertainment providers already do control content thru their websites and I don't see that changing, unless they can get mega buck advertisers from sheer volume usage.
    Website is just a portal. Networks can be controlled via everything from port blocking to packet sniffing and so on. Or they can just say that each user has 250kb of speed which in the US is considered "highspeed internet"... but in reality cant run sites like youtube.

    You know Napster, essentially changed the way the music industry worked by providing songs for free. I can listen and download practically anything from Youtube. Haven't bought an album in decades, just download MP3's or vids.
    Napster stole music and gave it away.. bit of a difference. What changed the music industry was the iPod and iTunes, but it did not change it enough. What is changing the music industry now, is Spotify and similar systems, that allow you to listen to all the music you want for a small fee with no ads, or for free with ads. That is the future of music.
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    Re: Free Internet!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You can't get the speed from satellite, sorry. It's just not possible and the latency is horrible. It's like the dial-up of broadband and you can be sure they're spamming users with advertising too, just like the free dial-up providers did back in the day. So no, I wouldn't.
    We get 20 mb satellite Internet here in Europe.. so speed aint the problem. Latency is, and if it is for anything but games, then latency is not that big of a problem. Satellite internet does however kill online games heh.. that 600ish ms blows in a FPS match.
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    Re: Free Internet!

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    We get 20 mb satellite Internet here in Europe.. so speed aint the problem. Latency is, and if it is for anything but games, then latency is not that big of a problem. Satellite internet does however kill online games heh.. that 600ish ms blows in a FPS match.
    20mb is nothing, I get more than 75mb and I could upgrade to over 100mb right now. I'm not going down to 20mb for anything.
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    Re: Free Internet!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    Only if it's fast enough.
    How fast is that? Cephus wants 70mb+, when most people can stream a video at 1mb. If you're downloading Gb sized files, running a server or playing online games but I can't see the need for more than 20mb? Most likely they'll offer something like 10-15mb download, 1-2mb upload.
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    Re: Free Internet!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    20mb is nothing, I get more than 75mb and I could upgrade to over 100mb right now. I'm not going down to 20mb for anything.
    Via satellite?
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    Re: Free Internet!

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Via satellite?
    No. I had satellite Internet a long, long time ago though and I hated it. It was slow, it had a huge latency and it was great when I finally got rid of it. It's nothing but downsides with absolutely no upsides.
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    Re: Free Internet!

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    How fast is that? Cephus wants 70mb+, when most people can stream a video at 1mb. If you're downloading Gb sized files, running a server or playing online games but I can't see the need for more than 20mb? Most likely they'll offer something like 10-15mb download, 1-2mb upload.
    I want faster than I have now. Heck, if you look at places like Tokyo, Internet speeds are 2Gbps down and 1Gbps up. That's what I want.
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