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    Re: Is Debate Politics a good and fair representation of society overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Eh? Push-back for their name-calling? How sad. They're used to getting off scott free; I know it must be a shock.
    I'm sorry; could you clarify? You used a lot of pronouns without specifying their antecedents.

    The only reason our tires haven't been slashed, or some such, by the usual suspects is that they don't know where they are. Do we really have to go through a laundry list of acts of leftist violence against the political opponents of the left? The stuff that happens on university campuses alone would take quite a while to review. Conservatives hire body guards just to go speak at those places.
    And one of the many, many, many differences between the Left and the Right is that when liberals hear of one of their own inciting violence, we will be the first ones to call it out. By contrast, you guy have a long track record of trying to hide, justify, or occasionally even praise some acts of violence from your own group.
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    Re: Is Debate Politics a good and fair representation of society overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Comments regarding gender, ethnicity/color, orientation, etc., address tangible specifics, and as such may (or may not) be legitimate, and people who are particularly hyper-sensitive to these issues may misconstrue them as "belittling".

    Comments regarding *-ism, *-phobia, etc., are individual opinions, based on little more than emotion regarding the topic and are less likely to be contributing to the discussion.

    Regardless, even illegitimate comments regarding said "tangible specifics" can be articulated without resorting to emotional hyperbole and character attacks.
    Racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. are not just signs of flawed character: They are harmful attitudes that deserve to be called out. So many people who spout these views prove to be spectacularly emotionally weak when this happens. Let me assure you, the most virulent anti-racist, anti-sexist, or anti-homophobe comment that does not incite violence cannot in any way, shape, or form compare to the real harm and the real damage that such thoughts and deeds perpetrate.
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    Re: Is Debate Politics a good and fair representation of society overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. are not just signs of flawed character: They are harmful attitudes that deserve to be called out. So many people who spout these views prove to be spectacularly emotionally weak when this happens. Let me assure you, the most virulent anti-racist, anti-sexist, or anti-homophobe comment that does not incite violence cannot in any way, shape, or form compare to the real harm and the real damage that such thoughts and deeds perpetrate.
    You missed the point. When expressing opinion/conclusion, *HOW* you do it is critical if you don't want to be called on it.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Is Debate Politics a good and fair representation of society overall?

    The number of libertarians in here is staggering in comparison with the voting population. This in turn causes the libertarian to rely on an almost Marxist outlook, claiming society suffers from "false consciousness" in all but name.
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    Re: Is Debate Politics a good and fair representation of society overall?

    Of the US? Probably.
    Of the world? No
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    Re: Is Debate Politics a good and fair representation of society overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Deprived of the ability to stop discussions by calling people racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic, etc., left wingers are at a loss for how to proceed here. They seem to resent free speech from their political opponents quite a bit, so you get all sorts of false and irrational characterizations.

    Conservatives and libertarians have learned to keep quiet in certain groups else they get their cars keyed or their tires slashed.
    Ah yes, those poor, persecuted conservatives.
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    Re: Is Debate Politics a good and fair representation of society overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I work long hours. Of course, a lot of it online.
    Same here.
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    Re: Is Debate Politics a good and fair representation of society overall?

    There are way more libertarians as a percentage of members on here than there is in the general population. I think most people that do keep up with current events are far more nuanced in their views than the average DP member.
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    Re: Is Debate Politics a good and fair representation of society overall?

    The internet is a fair and honest representation of society. It allows for us to speak without filter. Something few of us do in normal life.

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    Re: Is Debate Politics a good and fair representation of society overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The internet is a fair and honest representation of society. It allows for us to speak without filter. Something few of us do in normal life.
    I'm not sure that's a good thing. But it's not a random group. A certain type chooses this format. Unlikely representative.

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