View Poll Results: Do you think the US Constitution is a holy, infallible document?

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  • Yes, the Constitution is political perfection and infallible. Worthy of worship.

    3 6.82%
  • No, it was created by men and while it's a good document, let's not get wrapped around the axle.

    35 79.55%
  • The Constitution sucks, we need a new one every few years.

    1 2.27%
  • The Constitution surpasses even politics and is THE document for all of society and civilization.

    5 11.36%
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    Re: Do you think the US Constitution is a holy, infallible document?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Again, more childish remarks. Stop beating around the bush and explain specifically how my analysis of your position is wrong.
    What's to explain?

    You attributed positions to me, which I never took, and demanded that I defend them.

    You do not get to dishonestly put words in my mouth, and them make demands on me based on them.

    You do not get to make demands on me, period; but more than that, you do not get to make demands on me that are based on your own willful lies.
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    Re: Do you think the US Constitution is a holy, infallible document?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    What's to explain?

    You attributed positions to me, which I never took, and demanded that I defend them.

    You do not get to dishonestly put words in my mouth, and them make demands on me based on them.

    You do not get to make demands on me, period; but more than that, you do not get to make demands on me that are based on your own willful lies.
    Oh so you're gonna put an incendiary claim out there and then run away from it when someone calls you out on it? Wow, that right there deserves a slow clap.

    You said--and this is a DIRECT QUOTE:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock
    MY religion uniquely has a passage of canonized scripture which explicitly states that God inspired the Constitution to be written and established, through men that he raised up specifically for this purpose.

    To me, the Constitution itself is scripture; perhaps not directly the word of God, but very close to it.
    I claim that this bizarre belief is completely divorced from reality. I ask you to present convincing arguments that would make me change my mind.
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    Re: Do you think the US Constitution is a holy, infallible document?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Oh so you're gonna put an incendiary claim out there and then run away from it when someone calls you out on it? Wow, that right there deserves a slow clap.

    You said--and this is a DIRECT QUOTE:



    I claim that this bizarre belief is completely divorced from reality. I ask you to present convincing arguments that would make me change my mind.
    You asked, "Can you please show us where in the Bible it commands a nation--which had yet to exist at the time--to base its government on a specific and contrived interpretation of said Bible?"
    He might not be referring to the Bible. He might be Mormon. And he might not be inclined to evangelize, to 'change your mind'.
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    Re: Do you think the US Constitution is a holy, infallible document?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    You asked, "Can you please show us where in the Bible it commands a nation--which had yet to exist at the time--to base its government on a specific and contrived interpretation of said Bible?"
    He might not be referring to the Bible. He might be Mormon. And he might not be inclined to evangelize, to 'change your mind'.
    All of which he could clarify with one concise, well-written post.
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    Re: Do you think the US Constitution is a holy, infallible document?

    Perfect and worshipful? No.


    Mighty good and worth keeping? Hell yes.


    Better than anything we're liable to get if the current crop of politicos start tinkering? Oh hell yes.

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    Re: Do you think the US Constitution is a holy, infallible document?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Oh so you're gonna put an incendiary claim out there and then run away from it when someone calls you out on it? Wow, that right there deserves a slow clap.

    You said--and this is a DIRECT QUOTE:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    MY religion uniquely has a passage of canonized scripture which explicitly states that God inspired the Constitution to be written and established, through men that he raised up specifically for this purpose.

    To me, the Constitution itself is scripture; perhaps not directly the word of God, but very close to it.
    I claim that this bizarre belief is completely divorced from reality. I ask you to present convincing arguments that would make me change my mind.
    This is the first time you've addressed what I actually said. In the mean time, I have given as much explanation of my true position as I intend to. I specified my religion, I specified where in my religion's scriptures the principle is stated which I expressed; and I expressed my own opinion built on that source. Agree with it your not, that's your choice. Given the blatant dishonesty that you have so far demonstrated, I see no reason why I should care about any opinion you choose to take or express. Based on your behavior so far, I have no reason to assume that anything you say is true.

    Up until now, you have insisted on ignoring what I actually said, and attributing this blatant lie to me and demanding that I defend it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Can you please show us where in the Bible it commands a nation--which had yet to exist at the time--to base its government on a specific and contrived interpretation of said Bible?


    Anyway, we're done, here. I've had enough of your lies and your other dishonest games. I'm calling the Special Olympics rule—staying in an argument with you is like competing in the Special Olympics; even when one wins, one is still a retard, for wasting the effort on you. I do not intend to waste any more effort on you.
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    Re: Do you think the US Constitution is a holy, infallible document?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    All of which he could clarify with one concise, well-written post.
    Well, I didn't need a clarifying post. I just read what he wrote, same as you did.
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    Re: Do you think the US Constitution is a holy, infallible document?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Well, I didn't need a clarifying post. I just read what he wrote, same as you did.
    In any event, the “clarifying post”* was already there nearly an hour before he made this demand:

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Can you please show us where in the Bible it commands a nation--which had yet to exist at the time--to base its government on a specific and contrived interpretation of said Bible?

    In the extreme stretch that holds it not to be obvious in the first place that I never said what he was trying to attribute to me, the post was already there for him to see, which made it absolutely clear.

    * http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1062926399
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    Re: Do you think the US Constitution is a holy, infallible document?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    ...the Book of Mormon; which mostly contains the account of a group that left Israel around 600 BC, traveled to the Americas, and here established a great civilization. After about a thousand years, they fell into wickedness and degradation, and were wiped out.


    ****. I need to revisit my history books I guess.

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    Re: Do you think the US Constitution is a holy, infallible document?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    In any event, the “clarifying post”* was already there nearly an hour before he made this demand:


    In the extreme stretch that holds it not to be obvious in the first place that I never said what he was trying to attribute to me, the post was already there for him to see, which made it absolutely clear.

    * http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1062926399
    Ahh, finally, some clarification. Your beliefs are Mormon, not evangelical. I'll read up on this and get back to you later.
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