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Thread: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Right back at you.
    Or you could just be wrong about them being the opposite sex. Accepting facts doesn't make someone bigot.


    You did not answer my question. Do transgenders choose to be trans? Yes or no?
    Did I ever say they did? Why does this matter?
    Last edited by Henrin; 02-15-14 at 09:23 PM.

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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is because they stop traits the individual doesn't want to see from forming. In essence the illusion is better.
    Yeah, I get it. But I see that as a good thing. I have nothing but compassion for people in that situation. It has to suck really badly to know in your brain that you're one gender, but be physically stuck in the body of another. And unfortunately crude surgery and massive overdoses of hormones are the only treatment available.
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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Or you could just be wrong about them being the opposite sex. Accepting facts doesn't make someone bigot.
    Hold it. Are you seriously attempting to contend that the facts are on your side? If so, what are these facts, and how can we trust them?

    Did I ever say they did? Why does this matter?
    Just answer the question already. Can people choose to be transgendered, yes or no?
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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Hold it. Are you seriously attempting to contend that the facts are on your side? If so, what are these facts, and how can we trust them?
    Yes.

    Just answer the question already. Can people choose to be transgendered, yes or no?
    Why does it matter one way or the other?

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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You remember that when your 7 year old is begging and pleading you for chocolate cake for dinner.
    There's nothing wrong with chocolate cake for dinner, so long as there's a nice balanced plate of food for dessert. They're going to eat it all anyway, so what difference does it make which order they eat it in. And what does any of this have to do with feeling like you're in the wrong body. You're talking about very shallow childhood issues and desires and trying to equate them to the depth of gender identity disorder? Not surprised really. Y'all seem to all be pretty shallow unless the conversation is god, guns, and/or greed.
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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    There's nothing wrong with chocolate cake for dinner, so long as there's a nice balanced plate of food for dessert. They're going to eat it all anyway, so what difference does it make which order they eat it in.
    Kids don't though.

    And what does any of this have to do with feeling like you're in the wrong body. You're talking about very shallow childhood issues and desires and trying to equate them to the depth of gender identity disorder? Not surprised really. Y'all seem to all be pretty shallow unless the conversation is god, guns, and/or greed.
    There is a reason we don't allow kids to make their own medical decisions and there is a reason parents shouldn't be allowed to make decisions for their child that will harm their body. Since the child is not old enough to consent and there is nothing wrong with their body there is no reason to allow anything to take place towards it. The parents don't have the right to remove function from their child, and the child is not old enough to consent to it. This conversion has no reason to take place until the child is older.
    Last edited by Henrin; 02-15-14 at 11:42 PM.

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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    I'm hesitant to trust any article on trans issues written by a conservative.

    I don't think overdiagnosing is happening.

    And gender identity disorder is not a disease and characterizing it that way is disgusting.
    You have to remember our Conservative is your Liberal. It is also not her opinions most of it is commentary by professionals. Gender identity disorder is a disorder that can be "treated" and it is a professional diagnosis. You can overdiagnosis, it happens with autism all the time.

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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes.
    Yet again, you choose not to answer my question. I wonder why that is.

    Why does it matter one way or the other?
    Answer my question first. Are you afraid or something?
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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    There's nothing wrong with chocolate cake for dinner, so long as there's a nice balanced plate of food for dessert. They're going to eat it all anyway, so what difference does it make which order they eat it in. And what does any of this have to do with feeling like you're in the wrong body. You're talking about very shallow childhood issues and desires and trying to equate them to the depth of gender identity disorder? Not surprised really. Y'all seem to all be pretty shallow unless the conversation is god, guns, and/or greed.
    Transphobic arguments are almost identical to homophobic arguments. Several comments in this thread are evidence of that.
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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Yet again, you choose not to answer my question. I wonder why that is.
    Question? What question? I don't remember a question.

    Answer my question first. Are you afraid or something?
    No, it doesn't matter. Why would I be scared of something that doesn't matter? It's entirely irrelevant if people are born with it or not. If you really want to know the answer is yes. So anyway, why does that matter?

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