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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Okay. Time out. For the sake of argument, how do I know that you're a male? How do you know that I'm a male? Because of those little icons we selected when we signed up to DP?
    Seriously? I swear to some of you people it's like science doesn't even exist.

    Who are you to judge her? You don't know her. You don't know what's inside her mind. And you obviously didn't listen to her clear, consistent understanding that she is a girl.
    No, she is a boy, not a girl. Get it straight.

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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Gender is not something that somebody decides they want to be.
    No, it's not. It's something you're unalterably born with.

    Either you have an XY chromosome set, and male parts, making you male, or else you have an XX pattern, and female parts, making you female.

    Of course, the entire “transgender” thing is about people who think they can choose to be something other than what nature has unalterably created them to be—men who want to choose to be women, or women who want to choose to be men. It does not work that way, and it never will. Those who think that is does are, at best, severely deluded.
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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    No, it's not. It's something you're unalterably born with.

    Either you have an XY chromosome set, and male parts, making you male, or else you have an XX pattern, and female parts, making you female.

    Of course, the entire “transgender” thing is about people who think they can choose to be something other than what nature has unalterably created them to be—men who want to choose to be women, or women who want to choose to be men. It does not work that way, and it never will. Those who think that is does are, at best, severely deluded.
    Says the guy with positively zero understanding of psychology.
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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Seriously? I swear to some of you people it's like science doesn't even exist.
    I'm sorry, come again? Actually, wait, don't. It probably doesn't need to be said. Transphobia is never a good thing to spread.

    No, she is a boy, not a girl. Get it straight.
    Oh so you know her via an 8-minute video better than she has known herself all her life? That is a profoundly arrogant claim you have just made. Tell me, ye who knows someone better than she knows herself: Do transgenders choose to be trans? If so, why?
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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    No, it's not. It's something you're unalterably born with.
    Exactly!

    Either you have an XY chromosome set, and male parts, making you male, or else you have an XX pattern, and female parts, making you female.

    Of course, the entire “transgender” thing is about people who think they can choose to be something other than what nature has unalterably created them to be—men who want to choose to be women, or women who want to choose to be men. It does not work that way, and it never will. Those who think that is does are, at best, severely deluded.
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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I'm sorry, come again? Actually, wait, don't. It probably doesn't need to be said. Transphobia is never a good thing to spread.
    Again, I accept people for who they are. That isn't a phobia at all, or even any sort of bigotry. Maybe you shouldn't use terms you don't understand.

    Oh so you know her via an 8-minute video better than she has known herself all her life? That is a profoundly arrogant claim you have just made. Tell me, ye who knows someone better than she knows herself: Do transgenders choose to be trans? If so, why?
    Yeah, you're describing the mind. What of it?

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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Says the guy with positively zero understanding of psychology.
    But maybe he's lying about his gender, so maybe he's a "she"? I mean, hell, if she--I mean he--is not gonna believe one person's gender, why should we believe his? Or why should you believe mine? Etc., etc., etc.?
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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Again, I accept people for who they are. That isn't a phobia at all, or even any sort of bigotry. Maybe you shouldn't use terms you don't understand.
    Right back at you.

    Yeah, you're describing the mind. What of it?
    You did not answer my question. Do transgenders choose to be trans? Yes or no?
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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Has the idea of transgendered children been taken too far? In this Globe editorial, it talks about how due to the more public knowledge of gender identity disorder, kids are being diagnosed with it when they really shouldn't be. Instead of seeing as a phase like most experts, parents and doctors view it as gender identity disorder instead of just a phase and begin the life-altering surgeries and treatments when it may in fact just ruin their lives. Most experts recommend just telling your son or daughter they are boy/girl and it will pass.





    Has the diagnosis of gender identity disorder in children been taken too far? I say if it is starting to harm children and scapegoat real issues it has indeed gone too far.
    It's a very tricky issue. On the one hand I think that sort of thing isn't the kind of decision that should be made rashly, and there are real benefits to waiting to see if there is another way to help your child.

    On the other hand, from what I've heard, the hormone treatments that precede a full sex change are much more effective if started before puberty.

    I honestly don't know what I'd do if my kid was ever in that situation. I don't feel like I know enough to make an informed decision.
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    Re: Has The Idea of Transgendered Children Been Taken Too Far?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    On the other hand, from what I've heard, the hormone treatments that precede a full sex change are much more effective if started before puberty.
    That is because they stop traits the individual doesn't want to see from forming. In essence the illusion is better.

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