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    California's "may issue" rule ruled unconstitutional

    So what do you guys think of the 9th circuit ruling that California must be a shall issue state when in comes to conceal carry permits.

    I think it is a very good ruling and gives California's some freedom back to them that the state took away from them.

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    Re: California's "may issue" rule ruled unconstitutional

    The idea that the state gets to decide who "needs" their rights is even more rediculous than charging rent to keep them.
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    Re: California's "may issue" rule ruled unconstitutional

    It's a definite step in the right direction. There's a long way yet to go.
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    Re: California's "may issue" rule ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    So what do you guys think of the 9th circuit ruling that California must be a shall issue state when in comes to conceal carry permits.

    I think it is a very good ruling and gives California's some freedom back to them that the state took away from them.

    California ban on concealed weapons overturned by 9th Circuit appeals court
    For the time being. My bet is this goes to the SCOTUS and who knows how they will rule. Does the SCOTUS go by original intent or by someone's political agenda.
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    Re: California's "may issue" rule ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    So what do you guys think of the 9th circuit ruling that California must be a shall issue state when in comes to conceal carry permits.

    I think it is a very good ruling and gives California's some freedom back to them that the state took away from them.

    California ban on concealed weapons overturned by 9th Circuit appeals court


    It's a bit of an odd decision for the 9th 'Circus' IMO... they've usually been classified as rather far left-leaning, as well as the most-reversed court in America.

    One wonders if their purpose is to force the Supremes to take it up, hoping that SCOTUS will rule against out-of-home-carry as fundamental to the 2A.

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    Re: California's "may issue" rule ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    For the time being. My bet is this goes to the SCOTUS and who knows how they will rule. Does the SCOTUS go by original intent or by someone's political agenda.
    I don't think this will go to the SCOTUS because this is based off the Heller decision.

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    Re: California's "may issue" rule ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    I don't think this will go to the SCOTUS because this is based off the Heller decision.
    We shall see. The article did state that a couple of other federal courts had ruled in favor of similar bans in other states and that the SCOTUS usually takes up these types of cases. Time will tell.
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    Re: California's "may issue" rule ruled unconstitutional

    I'm not at all sure I fully understand the differences between the two, but if they are as I think, this decision makes sense.
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    Re: California's "may issue" rule ruled unconstitutional

    I was taught to never look a gift horse in the mouth, just be thankful you get to ride instead of walk.

    Seems to me the 9th court is just doing it's job, for all the left lean some see in it... but funny how now the rants about 'non-elected activist judges' and a 'tyrannical bench' will not be coming from the usual posters in the forum...

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    Re: California's "may issue" rule ruled unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    So what do you guys think of the 9th circuit ruling that California must be a shall issue state when in comes to conceal carry permits.

    I think it is a very good ruling and gives California's some freedom back to them that the state took away from them.

    California ban on concealed weapons overturned by 9th Circuit appeals court

    I suspect that one of two things is happening here. Hell has frozen over and liberal judges are actually respecting someone's right to bear arms or liberal judges are hoping that since they are most overturn court in history that the SCOTUS will reverse the 9th's decision.
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