View Poll Results: can we drone US citizens abroad?

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  • extingent circumstances - where immediate response in necessary

    9 52.94%
  • yes. if we can't go after a US citizen who has participated in killing any other way

    4 23.53%
  • no - he must be captured or killed by host governments only

    3 17.65%
  • yes. he is a danger just being able to roam

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    Re: Can the US drone it's citizens abroad?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    This is crap.

    Who decides what is 'a continuing, imminent threat to U.S. persons''?

    Some secret committee? The POTUS? Does the public ever see this 'proof'?

    What is to stop the POTUS from killing anyone he wants...using the above criteria as justification?

    This is a pathetic misuse of power.

    Plus, bombing another country is a technical 'act of war'


    Anyone that does not find this deeply concerning is staggeringly naive and/or ignorant.


    And I will not waste my time debating with those who disagree, because there is no need...

    ...for (on this particular subject, if you disagree with me) I AM right and you ARE wrong.

    Full stop.
    When it comes to foreign policy, the US is hugely hypocritical.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Can the US drone it's citizens abroad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The US drone program begun by Bush and placed on steroids by Obama is and has been wretched. The US will pay for these crimes against humanity. Killing innocent people, in the name of protecting innocent people



    (CNN) -- U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan have killed far more people than the United States has acknowledged, have traumatized innocent residents and largely been ineffective, according to a new study released Tuesday.
    The study by Stanford Law School and New York University's School of Law calls for a re-evaluation of the practice, saying the number of "high-level" targets killed as a percentage of total casualties is extremely low -- about 2%.


    Drone strikes kill, maim and traumatize too many civilians, U.S. study says - CNN.com
    Who cares? They're Pakistani. These people couldn't find Osama bin Laden when he was living in a giant military complex in the middle of a city and nobody in the government thought it was the least bit suspicious. I'm sure the citizens can't tell the difference between drone bombs and rain.
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    Re: Can the US drone it's citizens abroad?

    Any American citizen who is engaged in actions against the USA and its citizens has signed his own death warrant.

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    Re: Can the US drone it's citizens abroad?

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    US mulls another army action in Pakistan - PakTribune

    my problem is the elasticity of "imminent threat" - this would have to be a real threat i.e., "exigent circumstances"



    Any country that allows any person or group to wage war on the USA from its territory is at war with the USA.

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    Re: Can the US drone it's citizens abroad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    When it comes to foreign policy, the US is hugely hypocritical.



    Correct.

    This has been going on for a long time and has created a lot of problems for the USA which will not be going away anytime soon.

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    Re: Can the US drone it's citizens abroad?

    The USA can, has, and probably will continue to use drones against its citizens who have or are attempting to harm the USA or its citizens when there is no better alternative.

    Sometimes a man or a country just has to do what he or it has to do.

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    Re: Can the US drone it's citizens abroad?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Plus, bombing another country is a technical 'act of war'
    Not according to Obama. Its only a war if you put boots on the ground.
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    Re: Can the US drone it's citizens abroad?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Correct.

    This has been going on for a long time and has created a lot of problems for the USA which will not be going away anytime soon.
    It seems some people cannot differentiate between priorities, possibilities and hypocrisy. The is no more ignorant foreign policy position than to pretend that all countries can be treated the same, or that benefit to the US should not be considered. Such "reasoning" is intellectually dishonest at best, usually apologist and always pathetic.

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    Re: Can the US drone it's citizens abroad?

    Who voted this?

    no - he must be captured or killed by host governments only
    What kind of a moron thinks a terrorist state should be responsible for apprehending a terrorist? That's goin' full retard.

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    Re: Can the US drone it's citizens abroad?

    I honestly don't know the answer to that question. Our constitution is supposed to guarantee a status of innocent until proven guilty and protect the right to due process. The best I can come up with is an arrest warrant must first be issued. Every effort must be made to make the suspect aware he is wanted by authorities and to surrender himself at the nearest US Embassy, Consulate or friendly government police for extradition to answer charges back in the US. Along with those alerts a warning that he is considered armed and dangerous and if he does not surrender peacefully in a timely manner, US authorities will have no alternative than to apprehend him by force, which may endanger his safety. I'm also okay with a court proceeding in absentia revoking their US citizenship on the grounds of treason first.
    Last edited by Smeagol; 02-14-14 at 10:56 AM.
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