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Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

So far do you think Michael Dunn is guilty of murder?


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As I thought. Your recollection is as faulty as your claim.

And I will add ...
His testimony being different from another's is not contradicting himself as you claimed.

Please. I watched all 7 hours today, and have watched the rest of the case as I have time. On cross today, he was caught red handed telling two different stories several times.
 
Please. I watched all 7 hours today, and have watched the rest of the case as I have time. On cross today, he was caught red handed telling two different stories several times.
Then please provide them.
 
Then please provide them.

I already di provide some, and I am not going through 7+ hours of testimony for you. If you don't believe me, fine. I really don't care.
 
I already di provide some, and I am not going through 7+ hours of testimony for you. If you don't believe me, fine. I really don't care.

So like I already said.

So you are asserting something you can't back up. Figures.

Get back to me when you finally can.
 
He calls the cops and reports the incident as the law requires.

Dunn is certainly guilty, but he was not legally obligated to call the cops.
 
Dunn is certainly guilty, but he was not legally obligated to call the cops.

That's just crazy. Not your comment but if that's the law in Florida. You can't leave the scene of a fender bender without waiting for or notifying someone but you can shoot up a car with 4 kids inside with hollow point bullets, killing one of of the kids and there's no legal requirement to notify anyone, not even an ambulance. Just drive off, get some pizza for your lady friend and go about your business.
 
That's just crazy. Not your comment but if that's the law in Florida. You can't leave the scene of a fender bender without waiting for or notifying someone but you can shoot up a car with 4 kids inside with hollow point bullets, killing one of of the kids and there's no legal requirement to notify anyone, not even an ambulance. Just drive off, get some pizza for your lady friend and go about your business.
What is crazy, is calling young adults kids. Especially as the driver was 20 years old.
 
a bad day to be black in America... I guess if you look at the sopranos you are automatically a gangster
 
ok putting a spin guess the kill was justified ... just say what you feel ... we can read between the lines
 
What is crazy, is calling young adults kids. Especially as the driver was 20 years old.

All but one were school children to my understanding.
 
That's just crazy. Not your comment but if that's the law in Florida. You can't leave the scene of a fender bender without waiting for or notifying someone but you can shoot up a car with 4 kids inside with hollow point bullets, killing one of of the kids and there's no legal requirement to notify anyone, not even an ambulance. Just drive off, get some pizza for your lady friend and go about your business.

Crazy or not, it's not just the law in Florida, it's the law in most states. Even in states where failure to notify the authorities would constitute an offense, it would only be a misdemeanor at most and the obligation would not apply if others were already informing the authorities about the incident. It's noteworthy though that Florida law does require bystanders to call the police to report certain violent felonies (although liability for failure to do so would not apply if someone else did so).
 
especially if you are black a black guy would never get away with this.. if it was reversed ... even a black cop
 
especially if you are black a black guy would never get away with this.. if it was reversed ... even a black cop

He's not getting away with it.
 
give me a break boss!!!! this aint tv or organized crime please!!!!! the police will be there faster than any gang .. you people are parinoid
 
give me a break boss!!!! this aint tv or organized crime please!!!!! the police will be there faster than any gang .. you people are parinoid

What?
 
not with that stupid proscecuter.. I think it was the same one in Zimmerman trail I think
 
All but one were school children to my understanding.
Yeah, hanging out with a convict. :roll::shock:

The use of kids to describe young adults is spin to make the situation appear to be more horrible.

Dunn is also a child of his mother's. So in fact, you could call him a child.

:doh
Oh my! Davis, a young adult, threatened to kill someone's child.
Oh my!

Luckily that child was armed and was able to respond to such threats with deadly force.
:doh

Or we can dispense with such spin and accurately call the guys in the Durango young adults, as they were.
 
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not with that stupid proscecuter.. I think it was the same one in Zimmerman trail I think

It was the same one as in Zimmerman. Their chances of success in this case are substantially greater on account of the fact that they have evidence this time.
 
This story disgusts me. Dunn stated that it was "a life or death" situation. Against an unarmed 17 yr old?! Really?! How many times a day do you think a hormone drenched teenager threatens to kill someone in a harmless rant trying to look like a bad ass?? Hint...A LOT. What was it about this kid that somehow made Dunn think it was a genuine threat? Guesses anyone??

Can we be honest here please? Finally? If he hadn't been a black boy he never would have been shot and killed. THIS boy was perceived as posing a greater threat for one reason and one reason only, because this racist ass bought into all the bull**** stereotypes about young black men. And decided if he is angry and he is black he MUST have a gun and he MUST be ready to use it to shoot me.

"(Dunn) said the back rear window was down, and he could see two young men in the back seat with “menacing expressions.” WTF does that mean?! If I shot everyone who gave me a dirty look I would be surrounded by dead bodies, but guess what.... I never deem it necessary.
 
Yeah, hanging out with a convict. :roll::shock:

The use of kids to describe young adults is spin to make the situation appear to be more horrible.

Dunn is also a child of his mother's. So in fact, you could call him a child.

:doh
Oh my! Davis, a young adult, threatened to kill someone's child.
Oh my!

Luckily that child was armed and was able to respond to such threats with deadly force.
:doh

Or we can dispense with such spin and accurately call the guys in the Durango young adults, as they were.

If I were the parent of an 11th grader I would not consider my child an adult. I would have him on a curfew, make sure he did his homework and ground him from using the Nintendo if he brings home bad grades. Why? Because he's a child. On the other hand if I were the parent of a 47 year old man I would not do any of those things because he's a grown a55 man. That said, I understand everybody is different and some people might treat them as in the same age group with similar parental roles toward both the 11th grader and the 47 year old. ???
 
The biggest thing that stands out to me is that he left and went back to his motel. If you believe you shot someone and did so justly you do not leave that scene. You wait for the cops.

Only an idiot would do so. In fact, if he had they prosecution could use that to prove he wasn't afraid at all.
 
This story disgusts me. Dunn stated that it was "a life or death" situation. Against an unarmed 17 yr old?! Really?! How many times a day do you think a hormone drenched teenager threatens to kill someone in a harmless rant trying to look like a bad ass?? Hint...A LOT. What was it about this kid that somehow made Dunn think it was a genuine threat? Guesses anyone??

Can we be honest here please? Finally? If he hadn't been a black boy he never would have been shot and killed. THIS boy was perceived as posing a greater threat for one reason and one reason only, because this racist ass bought into all the bull**** stereotypes about young black men. And decided if he is angry and he is black he MUST have a gun and he MUST be ready to use it to shoot me.

"(Dunn) said the back rear window was down, and he could see two young men in the back seat with “menacing expressions.” WTF does that mean?! If I shot everyone who gave me a dirty look I would be surrounded by dead bodies, but guess what.... I never deem it necessary.

^ A racist message. Racists look at everyone thru racial eyes - as your message does.
 
This story disgusts me. Dunn stated that it was "a life or death" situation. Against an unarmed 17 yr old?!
Be disgusted.
But don't misrepresent the situation as it appeared to him.
That 17 year old coupled his verbal threats to kill Dunn, with what appeared to Dunn, to be a a barrel of a shotgun.





Can we be honest here please? Finally? If he hadn't been a black boy he never would have been shot and killed. THIS boy was perceived as posing a greater threat for one reason and one reason only, because this racist ass bought into all the bull**** stereotypes about young black men. And decided if he is angry and he is black he MUST have a gun and he MUST be ready to use it to shoot me.
That isn't being honest at all, but it is dishonesty.
If it had been a white boy who had done the same as Dunn heard and saw.
The same thing would have happened.
 
If I were the parent of an 11th grader I would not consider my child an adult.
And a 90 year old considers their 60 year old offspring their child. :doh

I would have him on a curfew, ...
The twenty year old, being on felony probation, was on curfew and was blowing it off. Go figure.

All you are doing is making excuses for using terminology that is used to spin the story to a more horrible event.
They were young adults. And that is a more accurate and neutral description than saying they were kids, which at 17 for Davis, he really wasn't.
 
Today on the stand Dunn claimed that he was watching out in the hotel because he was terrified that the "gangsters" were coming after him. Yet he took the dog out for a walk, and even though he was terrified never called the police.

I love watching liars get tangled up in their own lies. I can't believe he was dumb enough to take the stand.
 
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