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Thread: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Really?
    You must be speaking of tribalism in reference to race.
    I am not.
    I am speaking of tribalism in reference to the community as a whole, which the Jurors represent.

    The community being against Dunn can lead to the Jurors not following the law.
    In fairness to you, I elaborated and edited my post as you were replying. Oh no, tribalism can take many forms; political affiliation, race, gender, age, anything. So you're suggesting it might be a North Florida against Central Florida (Dunn's home) thing if he gets convicted? Interesting.
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    In fairness to you, I elaborated and edited by post as you were replying. Oh no, tribalism can take many forms; political affiliation, race, gender, age, anything. So you're suggesting it might be a North Florida against Central Florida (Dunn's home) thing if he gets convicted? Interesting.
    As I edited mine.

    Just as racial tribalism does exist, so does community tribalism.
    Regardless of it's existence, it is irrational, and can lead to faulty decisions. Sometimes purposeful bad decisions.
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    The biggest thing that stands out to me is that he left and went back to his motel. If you believe you shot someone and did so justly you do not leave that scene. You wait for the cops.
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    The biggest thing that stands out to me is that he left and went back to his motel. If you believe you shot someone and did so justly you do not leave that scene. You wait for the cops.
    Can you point out when/where he came to the belief he actually shot the person he was shooting at? I ask because I am pretty sure he did not learn he actually shot the person until later.
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    So far do you think Michael Dunn is guilty of murder?







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    Dont know who is familiar with the case but here are all the videos so far, ill be posting pictures and articles and other things

    so far today 2/10/14 I think he is guilty

    for me it comes down to these things

    he said he saw a gun yet there no corroborating evidence of this, It wasn't found, no wittiness saw one.

    if there was one pointed at him and the cars were side by side, why would a person once they see a shot gun, reach to the glove box knowing the gun is not ready to shoot, open it, load the chamber, then place his arms out the window two hands to shoot.? im no gun expert but my guess is a shot gun could clear the interior of the car with one shot, why waste all that time, seems like there was no fear or panic but thats just my opinion

    then after Dunn shoots at the SUV 10 times (1 misses) n clusters of 3, 4, 3 while the SUV was stationary (3) moving to leave (4), moving stopped during turn (3) he leaves the scene, drives 40 mins to his hotel, takes out the dog, eats, watches a movie, goes to sleep, wakes up and drives 2.5 hours home and doesnt call police

    those things along with all the evidence and testimony so far make me think his goose is cooked




    Day 1 opening statments
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL 02/06/2014 DAY 1 OPENING STATEMENTS - YouTube
    Day 1 Part 2
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL 02/06/2014 DAY 1 PART 2 - YouTube
    Day 1 Part 3
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL 02/06/2014 DAY 1 PART 3 FINAL - YouTube
    Day 2 Part 1
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL DAY 2 02/07/2014 MORNING PART 1 - YouTube
    Day 2 Part 2
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL DAY 2 02/07/2014 AFTERNOON PART 1 - YouTube
    Day 2 Part 3
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL DAY 2 02/07/2014 AFTERNOON FINAL - YouTube
    Day 3 Part 1
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL DAY 3 02/08/2014 MORNING PART 1 - YouTube
    Day 3 Part 2
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL DAY 3 02/08/2014 MORNING PART 2 - YouTube
    Day 3 part 3
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL DAY 3 02/08/2014 AFTERNOON PART 1 - YouTube
    Day 3 Part 4
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL DAY 3 02/08/2014 AFTERNOON PART 2 - YouTube
    Day 3 Part 5
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL DAY 3 02/08/2014 AFTERNOON PART 3 FINAL - YouTube
    Day 4 Part 1
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL DAY 4 02/10/2014 MORNING PART 1 - YouTube
    Day 4 Part 2
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL DAY 4 02/10/2014 MORNING PART 2 (MEDICAL EXAMINER) - YouTube
    Day 4 Part 3
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL DAY 4 02/10/2014 AFTERNOON PART 1 - YouTube
    Day 4 Part 4
    MICHAEL DUNN MURDER TRIAL DAY 4 02/10/2014 AFTERNOON PART 2 - YouTube

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    It looks like he is guilty.

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Can you point out when/where he came to the belief he actually shot the person he was shooting at? I ask because I am pretty sure he did not learn he actually shot the person until later.
    Dunn testified himself that he knew about the death at 1:00 in the morning, while still in the hotel. He then proceeded to sleep, wake up, and drive 2.5 hours home.

    He contradicted himself several times today, his fiancee directly contradicted his testimony on several points today, and his police interview directly contradicted some of his testimony today.
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Can you point out when/where he came to the belief he actually shot the person he was shooting at? I ask because I am pretty sure he did not learn he actually shot the person until later.
    I dont think that really matters. Common sense would be enough to believe he knows that if he discharges a firearm at someone, regardless of hitting that person, that he needs wait for and possibly notify the authorities. You cannot shoot someone, or at someone, even legally and then just leave.
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I dont think that really matters. Common sense would be enough to believe he knows that if he discharges a firearm at someone, regardless of hitting that person, that he needs wait for and possibly notify the authorities. You cannot shoot someone, or at someone, even legally and then just leave.
    Yes you can leave.
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Yes you can leave.
    No you cant.

    EDIT unless staying in that area would reasonably leave you in danger in which case you still have to go to a nearby location and call the police. Not go back to your hotel. The guy fled a non hostile (other than himself) scene.
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    Dunn testified himself that he knew about the death at 1:00 in the morning, while still in the hotel.
    Thereby showing that he left the scene not knowing that anybody had been shot.
    Thank you for making my point.


    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    He contradicted himself several times today, his fiancee directly contradicted his testimony on several points today, and his police interview directly contradicted some of his testimony today.
    By all means, if that is what you think, please provide theses contradictions.
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