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Thread: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Standing your ground does not mean you can indiscriminately shoot at people.
    These laws need to be Nationalized by the SCOTUS, if they are Constitutional, due to the do-nothing House.
    The abuse of the 10th amendment by states with RED legislature/governors continues to be an abomination since the time of Reagan .
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    What a weird decision!!

    The only thing I can think of is that one of the jurors wouldn't come off a 1st degree charge and accept 2nd degree. I mean, seriously, how can you be OK with attempted murder on 3 individuals and not conclude murder with regard to the 4th, dead one?

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Every state should NOT have different laws on murder.
    We are ONE Nation of 50 states, not 50 separate Nations.
    Btw, I had to turn off Sharpton due to his garbage and watch FOX.
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    A strange set of findings. But the outcome will be that he will be in prison for the rest of his life where he belongs..

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    so what does this mean? It was only a mistrial on one count, so he'll spend time in prison, right? And they can retry him on the first count, right?
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    so what does this mean? It was only a mistrial on one count, so he'll spend time in prison, right? And they can retry him on the first count, right?
    He'll be sentenced on the 3 attempts and the "throwing projectiles" (whatever that is). My understanding is that those charges alone could bring 80 years. There will likely be an appeal on all of those charges but I figure they should stick.

    With regard to the 1st degree charge there will most likely be a whole new trial. I really don't see Corey dropping that one under the circumstances.

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    He'll be sentenced on the 3 attempts and the "throwing projectiles" (whatever that is). My understanding is that those charges alone could bring 80 years. There will likely be an appeal on all of those charges but I figure they should stick.

    With regard to the 1st degree charge there will most likely be a whole new trial. I really don't see Corey dropping that one under the circumstances.
    It is problemsome that the jury must select 1st degree, 2nd degree, or manslaughter. If the charge would have just been killing someone I think he would have gotten a quick gulity of killling.
    Having to make 12 individuals come up with the same degree of killing cracks that door slightly opened to let the defendent off the hook.

    It is just like the hate crime tag. Why do we even have that ? I think it is safe to say that if you killed someone you probably hated them so we don't need the special hate crime. All murders are usually hate crimes.

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    He'll be sentenced on the 3 attempts and the "throwing projectiles" (whatever that is). My understanding is that those charges alone could bring 80 years. There will likely be an appeal on all of those charges but I figure they should stick.

    With regard to the 1st degree charge there will most likely be a whole new trial. I really don't see Corey dropping that one under the circumstances.
    So this is a mark in the win column for Florida. Good.
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    It is problemsome that the jury must select 1st degree, 2nd degree, or manslaughter. If the charge would have just been killing someone I think he would have gotten a quick gulity of killling.
    Having to make 12 individuals come up with the same degree of killing cracks that door slightly opened to let the defendent off the hook.

    It is just like the hate crime tag. Why do we even have that ? I think it is safe to say that if you killed someone you probably hated them so we don't need the special hate crime. All murders are usually hate crimes.
    We have the trials and the different charges because not every situation is the same. The purpose of the justice system is not simply to convict and punish but to make sure that people are treated fairly with regard to their circumstances.

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    For a variety of reasons. I presume you've read Vincent Bugliosi's Outrage: The Five Reasons OJ Simpson Got Away with Murder.
    I read Helter Skelter a few decades ago and got the impression that he is nothing but a dishonest unbelievable scumbag. I haven't read any of his books since then.

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