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Thread: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I have a gut feeling they're going to acquit Dunn or will be hung at a minimum.

    The jury said they've reached verdicts on all but one count. That count has to be murder since the others are all the same but with different victims. One juror was reportedly crying and/or looked visibly upset when they were called back to the courtroom. Generally happy jurors acquit, unhappy jurors convict. Generally men don't cry. My theory is there's one female juror holding out for a conviction and the others are ganging up on her.
    I have a feeling he's going to be acquitted, too. They are taking too long.
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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Even if he's acquitted of murder, he's still got a minimum of 60 years for the attempted murders.

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Even if he's acquitted of murder, he's still got a minimum of 60 years for the attempted murders.
    What evidence did the state provide that proves beyond any reasonable doubt that Dunn tried to shoot the other three?

    If he wanted to shoot all of them why didn't he shoot the driver first?

    And another thing, even the prosecution said that the shot that almost hit Tommie Stornes would have hit Davis if he would have been sitting up. That leaves reasonable doubt that the shot was aimed at the driver. It could have been aimed at Davis, or just an attempt to keep his head down.

    And what about Brunson? Which shot was aimed at him?

    And the shots that almost hit Thompson can be rationally explained by the fact that the SUV backed up quickly while Dunn was in the process of shooting at Davis.
    Last edited by Muhammed; 02-15-14 at 01:11 PM.

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    What evidence did the state provide that proves beyond any reasonable doubt that Dunn tried to shoot the other three?

    If he wanted to shoot all of them why didn't he shoot the driver first?

    And another thing, even the prosecution said that the shot that almost hit Tommie Stornes would have hit Davis if he would have been sitting up. That leaves reasonable doubt that the shot was aimed at the driver. It could have been aimed at Davis, or just an attempt to keep his head down.

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    Number one rule with a gun. Never point a gun at anything unless you plan to shoot it. He sprayed that car with his gun hoping to kill all inside it.

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    What evidence did the state provide that proves beyond any reasonable doubt that Dunn tried to shoot the other three?

    If he wanted to shoot all of them why didn't he shoot the driver first?

    And another thing, even the prosecution said that the shot that almost hit Tommie Stornes would have hit Davis if he would have been sitting up. That leaves reasonable doubt that the shot was aimed at the driver. It could have been aimed at Davis, or just an attempt to keep his head down.

    And what about Brunson? Which shot was aimed at him?

    And the shots that almost hit Thompson can be rationally explained by the fact that the SUV backed up quickly while Dunn was in the process of shooting at Davis.
    The shots he fired while they were in retreat are the basis of the attempted murders.

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    The shots he fired while they were in retreat are the basis of the attempted murders.
    Which shot was intended to kill Stornes, which shot was intended to kill Thompson and which shot was intended to kill Brunson?

    What is your theory?
    Last edited by Muhammed; 02-15-14 at 01:26 PM.

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Which shot was intended to kill Stornes, which shot was intended to kill Thompson and which shot was intended to kill Brunson?

    What is your theory?
    They don't have to prove an intent to kill a specific person, only that the shots were unjustifiable.

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    I voted other---the jury will remain hung.

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    They don't have to prove an intent to kill a specific person, only that the shots were unjustifiable.
    What was unjustifiable was him confronting the teens in the forst place, which he never would have done without a gun. But, that is not illegal. Once he confronted them, anything the teens in the car did to retaliate could be constituted as a reasonable threat. The law seems to be that forgiving.

    Where Dunn screwed up, IMO, is in saying too much. He saw a gun, someone got out of the car, they called him a cracker...

    Hung jury or conviction on lesser offenses.

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    Re: Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    They don't have to prove an intent to kill a specific person, only that the shots were unjustifiable.
    Please explain your rationale behind that?

    I don't recall the jury instructions saying that.

    But I will listen to them again.
    Last edited by Muhammed; 02-15-14 at 02:22 PM.

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