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    Re: Is religious freedom actually possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Stupid propaganda argument that does nothing to contribute to the discussion. Sad.
    and this, an example of an intellectually titillating experience...

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    Re: Is religious freedom actually possible

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Tell that to the legions of scientists worldwide who follow religions.
    No need to. They do not present it out of shame for it lacks evidence.
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    Re: Is religious freedom actually possible

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Balderdash, poppycock, rubbish and above all, phooey...
    Exactly. Thereby religion should be removed ASAP so as to provide more space to the real enlightening experience of science.
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    Re: Is religious freedom actually possible

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Exactly. Thereby religion should be removed ASAP so as to provide more space to the real enlightening experience of science.
    Well, now, that's just silly...

    How and Why are two separate questions in their entirety...

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    Re: Is religious freedom actually possible

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    Anarchy? Ballsy move, Goshin.

    Nah. Anarchy doesn't work so well, or requires re-inventing government by other names.

    But MYODB is pretty much how I live my life. I rarely stick my nose into others' business uninvited, if it isn't hurting me or someone I care about directly.

    Guy up the road likes to smoke a little wacky weed on his back porch some weekends... do I approve? No. Haven't turned him in tho, nor gone out of my way to lecture him on the Evils of Marajeewanna. Not my problem, as long as it stays on his back porch.

    I work with two lesbians. Do I approve of their lifestyle? Nope. Have I done or said anything about it? Nope. Not my business.


    Now I'll help someone out in a heartbeat. Stuck? I gots 4WD and a tow-strap, yeah I'll come pull you outta the ditch. Out of kerosene with snow on the way? If I can spare it I'll loan you a few bucks, sure.

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    Re: Is religious freedom actually possible

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Well, now, that's just silly...

    How and Why are two separate questions in their entirety...
    Complete that sentence please.
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    Re: Is religious freedom actually possible

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Exactly. Thereby religion should be removed ASAP so as to provide more space to the real enlightening experience of science.



    Lots of luck with that. Most of humanity begs to differ.

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    Re: Is religious freedom actually possible

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Complete that sentence please.
    I believe it was complete.

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    Re: Is religious freedom actually possible

    As many others have pointed out, it all depends on what is meant by "religious freedom."

    Religious freedom should extend to theology, not morality. That an unjust act is being done in the name of religion does not magically make it just. For instance, Catholic theology should enjoy the full protection of the law, but what the Catholic church is trying to do to women's abilities to obtain affordable birth control should NOT receive ANY deference from the law.
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    Re: Is religious freedom actually possible

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    So ive done some thinking in the time since i last created a thread and this is one of the questions that has come up in my mind often. Now many of you will say yes and not bother to read this and others of you will say no and still not read this. So here is what i am going to do. im going to keep typing and hope someone bothers to read this.

    So lets start off with an example. Personally im a supporter of gay/lesbian/bi rights, but consider how many religions exist out there that condemn homosexuality. And no this is not just rapping on Christianity. People groups in Islam,Judaism, im pretty sure Hinduism and Buddhism too, all put it down. And yet, if the gay rights activists are to be believed, then being gay/lesbian/bi is not a choice but a way of life chosen for them like being strait or homophobic is for the rest of us. Now, if all of those religions say put it down, and the government and the rest of the world is saying go screw your religion and let it happen, is religious freedom actually happening?

    Again, i personally support gay rights, but i also believe in Christ as my savior. So if someone could clear it up for me without becoming a heated debate over why everyone hates me for bringing this up, it would be much obliged.
    Does this discussion need to be framed in the context of the US and the Constitution and therefore the possible infringements on others rights with certain religious beliefs?

    That's the only relevant context for me. Anything else would be wholly hypothetical, rather than just (perhaps in the opinion of the OP) partially hypothetical.
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