I didnt bother reading the post so yes
I didn't bother reading the post so no
" May you live as long as you wish, and love as long as you live"
Everyone has the freedom to believe whatever they want to believe, as long as those beliefs are not limiting the freedom of others..
How about we found the Everybody Mind Their Own Damn Business party?
Works for me. If you ain't doing it in my house or yard, or in my vehicle, or hurting me with it directly, or trying to shove it down my throat... I don't really much care.
Fiddling While Rome Burns
Carthago Delenda Est
"I used to roll the dice; see the fear in my enemies' eyes... listen as the crowd would sing, 'now the old king is dead, Long Live the King.'.."
Shame on them.
I'm not a WE're...
Surat Al-Baqarah [2:216]
Religion hinders critical thinking and knowledge. Thus it enslaves the mind to the same old written nonsense in their "holy" books.
Hence "religious freedom" is an oxymoron.
If your idea of religious freedom is to force others to conform to your beliefs, then no.
"To waste, to destroy, our natural resources, to skin and exhaust the land instead of using it so as to increase its usefulness, will result in undermining in the days of our children the very prosperity which we ought by rights to hand down to them."~ Theodore Roosevelt (Message to Congress, Dec. 3, 1907)
The root of this question is freedom in general. Where does freedom really reside? It's a state of being that is not tied to circumstance. We were born free, live free, and die free. It only ceases to be true when you believe it to be so. It's not much different from unconditional love. If you can learn to love humanity for what it is, the good and the bad, the beautiful and the ugly, without holding any of it responsible for whether or not you love, then you are free. The basis of freedom is non-attachment/non-dependence.
I have a lot of respect for the religions of the world so please don't take what I'm about to say too personally. Religion requires discernment. Some people believe religion word for word while others completely dismiss it. The truth is somewhere in the middle. If you really want to extract core truth from religious teachings then you have to be willing to dive in and practice discernment.
If you're a genuine truth seeker then you can't possibly swallow religion whole, and there's no betrayal in saying so. I think that is the happy medium we are headed toward. Things like homosexuality are a testing ground where we apply discernment and rationally conclude that there is nothing wrong.
In line with this, there has to come a point when we are able to collectively acknowledge that there is a lot about religion that is simply wrong, and that's okay. There's no such thing as a perfect ideology anywhere, and it's imperfection which largely defines human progress. Up until now religion has had a special unquestionable status, and that's wrong. Humanity can't live in ideological stasis. It's fundamentalism and dogmatism which holds us back. We don't have to throw the baby out with the bath water, but we do need to develop the emotional maturity as a species to acknowledge ideological weakness and root it out. If people aren't willing to do that then they are not really seeking spiritual truth, but subservience.
Freedom comes from the heart. If you can really love unconditionally, then the answer to "religious freedom" is obvious. And AFAIK, most religions textually state that it's up to God and not humans to judge one another, so we should be letting go of that bad habit anyway.
Last edited by Northern Light; 02-11-14 at 03:54 AM.
Our nation has to face reality.
We have never had complete "religious and free from religion " freedom.
Just try being an atheist.....as an example.....
The problem is with the extremist/conservative....in my opinion....and my experience.....
I voted "maybe".....if and when all learn tolerance and respect....