A couple of things I disagree with.
Kind of circular logic there which appears to try to elicit an emotional response. When laws are written to make an action against the law then of course they are illegal. In terms of rights there is a conflict of "rights" you assume that one individual has a right to the services and property of another private entity (to be distinguished from governmental entities). However to usurp the rights of individual private business owners their right to manage their own rights of property and freedoms of association are violated when forced to provide goods and services they don't want to provide under penalty of law.
Originally Posted by AGENT J
Originally Posted by AGENT J
We used to have:
1. Areas of the country where black people couldn't rent a room for the night when traveling.
2. Areas of the country where black people traveling couldn't buy gas from white station owners.
3. Areas of the country where blacks couldn't eat unless they could find a black's only food establishment.
4. And we had systematic discrimination against minorities in terms of how government functioned, such as segregated mass transit (buses, trains, etc.), schools, law enforcement, etc.
In those days such things were commonplace, but society has changed in the last 50 years and changed a lot. There has been a "corporatisation" where you can't spit without finding a company gas station, movie theater, restaurateur, motel/hotel, etc. Just because we repeal Public Accommodation laws, doesn't mean that things are going to go back to the way they were 2 generations ago. And there are a number of factors that impact this:
1. We are much more mobile society. People routinely travel in a manner unprecedented then, both temporary and "permanent" relocation's out of the area they grew up in.
2. We are more informed society and information is much more available today about how a business conducts it self in term so taking care of customers we have Criag's list, Angie's list, Yelp, and a plethora of hotel, restaurant, and review sites for any type of business and it's not just the discriminated against who would choose not to associate with such a business. It includes many in the majority that would shy away from such businesses.
3. The "corporatisation" of businesses in America watches the bottom line and having your "brand name" associated with and appearing to condone discrimination has a negative impact on the bottom line. With corporate owned "shops" and franchises who still fall under policies of the home office means that these businesses will not allow or condone what was going on prior to the 60's.
So the question becomes the balance of the rights of the private business owner to manage their private property according to their desires as compared to the desires of others to have access to that private business. With the widespread discrimination 2-generations ago there may have been justification to say the rights of the property owner needed to be usurped - on a temporary basis - but those times are pretty much gone. The balance was greatly tilted toward discrimination.
But in general the widespread issues from 50 years ago have been resolved by fundamental shifts in society. Sure there will be isolated instances, that the price of liberty and dealing with your own issues. A burger joint says - I won't serve a black? OK, walk across the street to Applebee's. A photographer doesn't want to shoot a same-sex wedding? OK, Google or Angie's List other photographers in the area.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all FOR keeping Public Accommodation laws in force in terms of the functioning of government but that is because citizens have an inherent right to equal treatment by the government. There is no such right to equal treatment by other individuals.
There is a newer movement afoot, to allow people to discriminate based on religious bias. In other words if a person claims their motivation to discriminate was based on religion - then they get special treatment and are exempt from anti-discrimination laws.
I don't support such measures, I think Public Accommodation laws in general should be repealed as they apply to private business entities.