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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Madison has been worm food for nearly two centuries now. His opinion means nothing next to the Constitution and those who have the responsibility to interpret it.

    News bulletin from the early 20th century Herr Barkmann (and that is a century ago which is hardly breaking news for 99.999% of us) : the people elect both the House and the Senate and those who serve are indeed from and part of the PEOPLE. Even those who run your precious states are the people elected by the people. That is about as collective as it gets.

    worm food?...........thank you for the deflection, from my statement and your downfall!

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    worm food?...........thank you for the deflection, from my statement and your downfall!
    It is revealing that you attempted focus on the witty quip followed by your own retort while selectively hoping that you opting to ignore the facts which prove your statements about the nature of the American government wrong would not go unnoticed.

    You lost.
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is revealing that you attempted focus on the witty quip followed by your own retort while selectively hoping that you opting to ignore the facts which prove your statements about the nature of the American government wrong would not go unnoticed.

    You lost.
    anytime you need to know something about constitutional law........i am here for you....

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    anytime you need to know something about constitutional law........i am here for you....
    AHA! Another attempt at a retort in a shabby attempt to deflect from your complete inability impotence to reply to the substance of my post showing you that you are wrong speaks volumes.

    But lets get past that silly stuff on your part and look again at my statement which shows you are simply wrong about the involvement of the American people in their government:

    News bulletin from the early 20th century Herr Barkmann (and that is a century ago which is hardly breaking news for 99.999% of us) : the people elect both the House and the Senate and those who serve are indeed from and part of the PEOPLE. Even those who run your precious states are the people elected by the people. That is about as collective as it gets.




    There it is for you Herr Barkmann. Constitutional proof that you have no idea how the American government really works beyond the personal musings of a long dead individual who has been rendered irrelevant by history and time.
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    aha! Another attempt at a retort in a shabby attempt to deflect from your complete inability impotence to reply to the substance of my post showing you that you are wrong speaks volumes.

    But lets get past that silly stuff on your part and look again at my statement which shows you are simply wrong about the involvement of the american people in their government:

    news bulletin from the early 20th century herr barkmann (and that is a century ago which is hardly breaking news for 99.999% of us) : The people elect both the house and the senate and those who serve are indeed from and part of the people. Even those who run your precious states are the people elected by the people. That is about as collective as it gets.




    there it is for you herr barkmann. Constitutional proof that you have no idea how the american government really works beyond the personal musings of a long dead individual who has been rendered irrelevant by history and time.
    i am here for you hay, don't be afraid, don't be afraid, truth always rules in the end, and i will continue to help you discover constitutional law.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i am here for you hay, don't be afraid, don't be afraid, truth always rules in the end, and i will continue to help you discover constitutional law.
    So how far away are you from the full self induced delusional state now that you have resorted to repeating the same mantra trying to shut out the inconvenient truth that threatens to shout down the voice of Madison in your head?

    Why are you impotent to speak to this which proves you wrong about America, its people and their role in their government? Here it is again for you


    news bulletin from the early 20th century herr barkmann (and that is a century ago which is hardly breaking news for 99.999% of us) : The people elect both the house and the senate and those who serve are indeed from and part of the people. Even those who run your precious states are the people elected by the people. That is about as collective as it gets.
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    let me put it into context, using sound judgement.

    if a person enters my business which would be my property, and he violates my rights by stealing my property, i have the power to restrain that person [ his liberty ],..... since my business would be more then likely be located in a populated area since i seek to do commerce with people, i would restrain and call the police.

    if you come onto my land, house, and i believe you threaten me, or that property, i will restrain and search you for weapons and then call the police.

    since it is legal for me to have the power to restrain your liberty[for violating my rights] since your on my property, i have also the power to search you on my property[ for violating my rights].

    however, i am not going to JUST search you [for no reason] just because you entered my property, business or land......that is what sound judgement is.
    Then you and I are in agreement then. You had failed to include the qualifier before of my violating your rights on your property, hence our initial disagreement. The only other thing I would correct is your final line as "...i cannot legally just search you [for no reason] just because you enetered..."
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So how far away are you from the full self induced delusional state now that you have resorted to repeating the same mantra trying to shut out the inconvenient truth that threatens to shout down the voice of Madison in your head?

    Why are you impotent to speak to this which proves you wrong about America, its people and their role in their government? Here it is again for you


    news bulletin from the early 20th century herr barkmann (and that is a century ago which is hardly breaking news for 99.999% of us) : The people elect both the house and the senate and those who serve are indeed from and part of the people. Even those who run your precious states are the people elected by the people. That is about as collective as it gets.
    another failure of yours, for not reading Madison's writings.

    Madison -The true distinction between these and the American governments, lies in the total exclusion of the people, in their collective capacity, from any share in the latter, and not in the total exclusion of the representatives of the people from the administration of the former.

    Madison states the people vote collectivity....however in the federal government they don't make laws, collectedly, because the republican structure of government prevents it.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    another failure of yours, for not reading Madison's writings.

    Madison -The true distinction between these and the American governments, lies in the total exclusion of the people, in their collective capacity, from any share in the latter, and not in the total exclusion of the representatives of the people from the administration of the former.

    Madison states the people vote collectivity....however in the federal government they don't make laws, collectedly, because the republican structure of government prevents it.
    A distinction without a difference as the people are integral in the elections of our representatives and thus in the passage of laws and our government. Again, reality has rendered your obsession with the long dead Madison irrelevant.
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    A distinction without a difference as the people are integral in the elections of our representatives and thus in the passage of laws and our government. Again, reality has rendered your obsession with the long dead Madison irrelevant.
    people elect representatives collectedly, even Madison states that, ...but tell me how did collectivist pass legislation thru a senate, which was not in the hands of the people, pre 17th...since you stated before the founders had collectivist ideas for our constitution?

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