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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    your rights end when the infringe on others
    Exactly my point. You infringe on my rights when you force me to hire someone I don't want to hire.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Exactly my point. You infringe on my rights when you force me to hire someone I don't want to hire.
    then you point fails because that factually doesn't happen and you rights remain intact
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Exactly my point. You infringe on my rights when you force me to hire someone I don't want to hire.

    Technically speaking the law doesn't force a business to hire anyone.

    What the law does is say that you can't NOT hire someone based on specific criteria.

    Let's take an example for private business. You have an accounting position open, you have multiple candidates and the best candidate is black, you can't refuse to hire him/her because he/she is black. On the other hand you have an accounting position and have multiple candidates, there are three candidates that you are considering: Jim (best qualified), John (next best qualified), and Joan (the daughter of your golfing buddy). You can hire Jim since he's the best qualified, you are not turning away John based on race. Or, you can hire Joan by giving your golfing buddy's daughter a preference - you are not turning John away because if his race.


    EDIT: Forgot the "NOT".


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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    then you point fails because that factually doesn't happen and you rights remain intact

    If you force me to hire a person who's life style offends me I lose my rights and that is what these so called anti discrimination laws do.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If you force me to hire a person who's life style offends me I lose my rights and that is what these so called anti discrimination laws do.
    100% factually false

    again no law does that, so your concern is meaningless and irrelevant
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Did I say one word about taking your rights away from you?

    No, I did not.

    If you can't deal with equal rights for every human being, maybe you're living in the wrong country.
    Then we agree. You support my right to discriminate.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Technically speaking the law doesn't force a business to hire anyone.

    What the law does is say that you can't hire someone based on specific criteria.

    Let's take an example for private business. You have an accounting position open, you have multiple candidates and the best candidate is black, you can't refuse to hire him/her because he/she is black. On the other hand you have an accounting position and have multiple candidates, there are three candidates that you are considering: Jim (best qualified), John (next best qualified), and Joan (the daughter of your golfing buddy). You can hire Jim since he's the best qualified, you are not turning away John based on race. Or, you can hire Joan by giving your golfing buddy's daughter a preference - you are not turning John away because if his race.


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    Technically speaking-potatoe potato

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Technically speaking-potatoe potato
    and technically speaking your assessment of these laws was factually wrong
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If you force me to hire a person who's life style offends me I lose my rights and that is what these so called anti discrimination laws do.
    Technically, the law doesn't force you to hire a specific person. It says you cant use certain criteria when hiring. In any discussion of rights however, that is a distinction without a difference since by right, the criteria you use when hiring belong to the person who owns the business. The trouble is too many people don't have the foggiest idea what rights truly are but merely ape what they have heard. No one has the right to be free from discrimination, so my discriminating against you for whatever reason, is not violating your rights. Its just that simple but it is a difficult concept to relay to simpletons.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    and technically speaking your assessment of these laws was factually wrong
    So if a transvestite is the most qualified for a job and I say I won't hire him because he's a transvestite all is good?

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