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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Meanwhile back here in the real world, in the USA our legislators make laws that impact/determine our rights and the Supreme Court decides whether they are constitutional. If your business won't respect those laws they will be sued, fined or closed. That will happen even if someone's imaginary playmate or an 18th century philosopher told them that they have a particular right.
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    All rights have limits imposed by law.

    When you have a business the government regulates where it can be located, the type of building you can use, the type of sign you display, how you can fire and hire people, the minimum wage, how you dispose of waste, and fire and other safety requirements. You are also required to document your income and expenses to pay your taxes and get deductions. If you have a restaurant, you will be inspected to make sure that the food is protected properly from spoilage and contamination, that the employees wash their hands and wear proper clothing and hair nets etc, that you have pests under control, provide access to the disabled, have accessible restrooms and much more.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You are talking circles and and doing so chasing your own tail.

    The facts are pretty simple and painfully obviious:

    1- you want to claim a right of association which would allow people to exercise behaviors that are discriminatory and bigoted and clearly against current US law.
    2- because the US prohibits such behaviors - there is no right to exercise such behaviors that are discriminatory and bigoted.

    This is called REALITY.

    It matters NOT what you believe.
    It matters NOT what you think should be.
    It matters NOT how you define the right of association.
    again your stating a right to association does not exist, however it does........so again your wrong..

    the right is being suppressed by governments.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    again your stating a right to association does not exist, however it does........so again your wrong..

    the right is being suppressed by governments.
    You are engaging in circle nonsense talk with yourself.

    The facts are pretty simple and painfully obviious:

    1- you want to claim a right of association which would allow people to exercise behaviors that are discriminatory and bigoted and clearly against current US law.
    2- because the US prohibits such behaviors - there is no right to exercise such behaviors that are discriminatory and bigoted.

    This is called REALITY.
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Just a personal note. I believe in non discrimination, but I avoid fast food restaurants with homosexuals servers. I worry about AIDS and spit in food, etc. A minimal worry statistically but a real worry.
    Do you worry about servers who don't wash their hands after using the restroom; how do you really know if a heterosexual isn't spreading e-coli into your Big Mac? Chances are much higher of you getting an infection from that type of a thing than from AIDS.

    I'd wouldn't worry about getting AIDS from a food server unless you are being intimate with the food server. And even then you could still get a disease if you and the heterosexual food server you are with aren't being safe.

    What you described is NOT a minimal worry, it is a non-existent worry. It fails all logical consideration in my opinion.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    Do you worry about servers who don't wash their hands after using the restroom; how do you really know if a heterosexual isn't spreading e-coli into your Big Mac? Chances are much higher of you getting an infection from that type of a thing than from AIDS.

    I'd wouldn't worry about getting AIDS from a food server unless you are being intimate with the food server. And even then you could still get a disease if you and the heterosexual food server you are with aren't being safe.

    What you described is NOT a minimal worry, it is a non-existent worry. It fails all logical consideration in my opinion.
    There you have it. You can have my waiter and I'll just stick with my ignorance.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    you are engaging in circle nonsense talk with yourself.

    The facts are pretty simple and painfully obviious:

    1- you want to claim a right of association which would allow people to exercise behaviors that are discriminatory and bigoted and clearly against current us law.
    2- because the us prohibits such behaviors - there is no right to exercise such behaviors that are discriminatory and bigoted.

    This is called reality.

    reality = not following the constitution

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    I support faithful execution of our own laws regarding this labor issue.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by hard truth View Post
    all rights have limits imposed by law.

    When you have a business the government regulates where it can be located, the type of building you can use, the type of sign you display, how you can fire and hire people, the minimum wage, how you dispose of waste, and fire and other safety requirements. You are also required to document your income and expenses to pay your taxes and get deductions. If you have a restaurant, you will be inspected to make sure that the food is protected properly from spoilage and contamination, that the employees wash their hands and wear proper clothing and hair nets etc, that you have pests under control, provide access to the disabled, have accessible restrooms and much more.

    please explain to me.....why the government should create a law on the people...........if that law, does not secure rights of the people, or protect the health and safety of the people.

    Discrimination laws....do not secure rights, and they do not protect the health and safety of the people.

    So why are discrimination laws created for?

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    I believe it would not be necessary with recourse to unemployment compensation that clears our poverty guidelines, in order for Socialism to pick up that moral slack on the Peoples' dime, simply because it is unprofitable for Capitalism. That is what Socialism, Used for Goodness and not Badness, should always be good for.
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