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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    bigotry and discrimination........is NOT A CRIME..........when i violate a person rights.........that is a crime!

    so if a person engages in bigotry and discrimination...........he is not violating anyone rights.
    Are you no longer a resident of the USA?
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    are you no longer a resident of the usa?


    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    bigotry and discrimination........is not a crime..........when i violate a person rights.........that is a crime!

    So if a person engages in bigotry and discrimination...........he is NOT violating anyone rights.

    Again---- if a person commits ........ Bigotry and discrimination...which is not crime..........which does not violate health and saftey standards.............by what authority does government have to force me to associate with another person?

    You whole argument is.... People are doing things you disagree with find stupid, and hateful.....but that does not give you any authority by law!
    government is here to secure rights of the people........[criminal law] protects rights of the people, [regulations ]health and safety standards protect .....the people and property.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    government is here to secure rights of the people........[criminal law] protects rights of the people, [regulations ]health and safety standards protect .....the people and property.
    just as long as you know that you are wrong and actions of bigotry and discrimination can be crimes in the USA.
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    just as long as you know that you are wrong and actions of bigotry and discrimination can be crimes in the USA.
    if a citizen in not violating the rights of other citizen.

    if a citizen is not violating health and saftey standards.........then by what authority does government have to act on them?

    or are you going to say bigotry and discrimination...is a crime, or health an saftey issue?

    right to association, means i can or cannot associate with people.
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if a citizen in not violating the rights of other citizen.

    if a citizen is not violating health and saftey standards.........then by what authority does government have to act on them?

    or are you going to say bigotry and discrimination...is a crime, or health an saftey issue?

    right to association, , means i can or cannot associate with people.
    I am saying what I have said: the ideas you advocate would make legal acts of discrimination and bigotry which are today illegal in the USA.

    Got that now?
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I am saying what I have said: the ideas you advocate would make legal acts of discrimination and bigotry which are today illegal in the USA.

    Got that now?
    and they are unconstitutional, when placed on citizens, but not governments.......got it!

    AMENDMENT XIV

    Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

    Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

    Section 1.
    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    and they are unconstitutional, when placed on citizens, but not governments.......got it!

    AMENDMENT XIV

    Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

    Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

    Section 1.
    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
    I live in reality where US law says otherwise. Enjoy your own fantasy land where you have crafted your own reality outside of USA 2014.
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What facts do you have? You have appeal to authority and propaganda. You were the one that claimed it protects everyone, I merely highlighted instances when it in fact infringed upon the rights of the individual. That's reality and you have no way to address it while keeping your propaganda together other than to try to dismiss it.

    Fact, that's it. Sometimes in the exercise of nondiscrimination laws, the rights of the individual are infringed upon. That's fact.

    hey look more opinions, strawmen,philosophies and deflections that change nothing lol, awesome
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    hey look more opinions, strawmen,philosophies and deflections that change nothing lol, awesome
    None of it in fact. You keep saying it, but only because you cannot argue against it. Pretty pathetic, lol.
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I live in reality where US law says otherwise. Enjoy your own fantasy land where you have crafted your own reality outside of USA 2014.
    mister big government.

    reality= not following the constitution.

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