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Thread: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights? [W:85]

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights? [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    1.)I don't support any AA law.
    2.) Yes, people have a right to be gay if they want.
    3.) However people also have a right to associate with who they want.
    4.) Having a buisness does not take that right away from you.
    5.)Should there be a law that makes a person have at least one gay friend? One black friend? One white friend? One Christian? One Muslim?
    6.) If the answer to those questions is "no" then why the heck should you be forced to hire any of them?
    7.)There is no right to a job. If there was then we wouldn't have millions of people on welfare who only have it because they can't find a job.
    8.)It is also quite obvious...at least to me....that AA laws have caused far more hard feelings and hatred than they have helped what it was supposedly made to fix.
    1.)AA law? you mean affirmative action and equal opportunity? why?
    2.) correct
    3.) yes the do
    4.) but in ways it factually does, law and rights make it that way
    nobody forces you to own and run business, there are rules and laws and regulations for public access business that we ALL MUST follow nobody get special treatment. If you choose to break the law and infringe on people rights thats a choice you can make but its your choice and breaking the law has consequences.

    if one cant be civil and play by the same rules we all do and respect the rights of others like we all have to the solution is simple, dont play open a business or run a business out your house or online or like the majoruty of people do simply hide your discimranti and do it legally

    5.) of course not thats retarded and nothing like anti-discrimination laws

    6.) you factually are NOT forced to hire anybody
    7.) 100% correct thats why you arent forced to hire anybody
    8.) well IMO thats silly because AA laws dont do what you are talking about. Polls and studies that AA/EEO made things better

    the problem is people breaking the law not AA/EEO

    theres bad judges and police officers that dont follow the law should we get rid of them? no of course not

    also just for the record the people that dont follow the law and practice something else besides AA/EEO they are despicable and part of the problem but again thats them not the law
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    To a degree. I don't like it to the point where it essentially makes protected classes of people that are "more equal" than others. Your rights are your rights, the laws should merely clarify things, not create new rights or new protected groups that are't specifically mentioned in the Constitution.
    I agree that the 14th should just cover it but since were not using the 14th properly that created this need for additional clarification, but nobody is more equal

    race, sex, religion, age, national origin etc

    all those describe me
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    AMENDMENT XIV

    Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

    Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

    Section 1.
    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    the 14th applies to governments,............ not business or citizens.

    the constitution was not created to limit the people.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    No, because I'm a young, straight, white man and these laws do nothing to benefit me at all.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights? [W:85]

    Nonsense poll is nonsense.

    I don't have a right to make a business give me custom. I don't have a right to make an employer hire me.

    Ergo, such laws do not protect any rights.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights? [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Currently these laws protect our equal rights against illegal discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, genetic information, or age on a national level
    on many state, county and most major city levels it also protects sexual orientation

    Couldnt find a poll about these laws in general, most seem to focus on sexual orientation and the ENDA Bill because those are recent hot topics.

    Polling shows that about 73% approve of these laws and the addition of sexual orientation


    https://www.hrc.org/blog/entry/poll-record-percentage-of-americans-support-non-discrimination-laws

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    According to a poll conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute, roughly three-quarters of Americans, 73 percent, favor laws that would protect gay and lesbian people from employment discrimination, versus the 22 percent who are opposed.On the religious spectrum, a majority of every major religious group favor employment discrimination protections for gay and lesbian people, including white evangelical Protestants (59%), minority Protestants (61%), white mainline Protestants (75%), Catholics (76%), and religiously unaffiliated Americans (84%).This news comes as Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee Chairman Tom Harkin prepares to move forward with consideration of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) in Congress. The bill would prohibit workplace discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity across the country.

    Fairness and equal treatment under the law are foundational American values and it is not surprising that majority of Republicans, independents, and Democrats favor this policy. Eight-in-ten Democrats (80%), three-quarters (75%) of independents, and 6-in-10 (60%) Republicans favor laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against job discrimination"

    more proof the majority support equal rights/equality and even the majority of religious people which i often point out when people unfairly group them together and say they dont.

    other polls, i'll look for more that is an in general poll
    http://images.politico.com/global/20...natl_memo.html
    Polling Shows Strong Support for ENDA | Freedom to Work

    So its a simple question

    Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

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    other: explain
    Often times the "non-discrimination" power of government infringes upon the rights of the individual instead of protecting them. I only endorse that which protects and proliferates our rights and liberties.
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights? [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    1.)Nonsense poll is nonsense.

    2.)I don't have a right to make a business give me custom. I don't have a right to make an employer hire me.

    3.)Ergo, such laws do not protect any rights.
    1.) poll is based on facts laws and rights
    2.) wrong thread this thread is about anti-discrimination laws that have nothing to do with you said

    can you quote ONE single person here saying that have that right or want that right? did anybody here say they have the right to make an employer hire them?

    theres a topic here try to stay on it pleas

    3.) correct i agree the made laws you just stated dont protect any rights, good thing you made them up and the dont exist nor do they have anything to do with the thread topic

    ERGO facts win again
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    No, because I'm a young, straight, white man and these laws do nothing to benefit me at all.
    100% factually false

    age
    sexual orientation (not covered everywhere yet)
    Race
    Gender

    these laws cover and benefit us all by definition
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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights? [W:85]

    More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/us...id=tw-bna&_r=2

    governments create privileges, not rights, there are no laws that have create a right.....only a privilege.

    the constitution does not create rights, it only recognizes rights.

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    Re: Do you support non-discrimination laws that protect our rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    100% factually false

    age
    sexual orientation (not covered everywhere yet)
    Race
    Gender

    these laws cover and benefit us all by definition
    Yeah how's that?

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