View Poll Results: Your opinion on old people in the USA

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  • The growing number of seniors is a major economic challenge

    15 51.72%
  • We all owe old people and they should get what they want

    3 10.34%
  • I'm over 65 and I paid my dues, now its my right to collect

    2 6.90%
  • Most old people suck

    1 3.45%
  • We should respect our elders and they are the wisest

    9 31.03%
  • Social security should be changed to be on a needs basis

    10 34.48%
  • The legal retirement age for government benefits should be raised

    8 27.59%
  • Old people are better people, it's young people who suck

    8 27.59%
  • They're right, we need lots more restrictions and laws

    0 0%
  • Old people made the most wonderful country in the world

    7 24.14%
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Thread: Are Old People the ruin of this country?

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    Re: Are Old People the ruin of this country?

    what was that film where they secretly killed old people and fed them to society?
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Are Old People the ruin of this country?

    It's all about how you frame the argument. It's pretty convenient for people who dictate policies to frame it in such a way to make aging seem like some kind of greed scheme to steal money from their "children". Don't fall for this hype. The truth is if it wasn't for SS, many retirees would have to be cared for by their children. A major problem we face today is real wages for most American workers have lagged productivity for the past 40 years. That has surely effected the amount of money being put aside for this program.
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    "It’s difficult to gauge the combined effect of slow wage growth and rising inequality since the two are related—the taxable earnings cap is indexed to average wages. It’s probably fair to say, however, that robust full-employment and pro-worker policies could eliminate half to three-fourths of the shortfall. These calculations don’t take into account other full-employment effects, such as reduced unemployment and disability rates, which are harder to estimate with available information.

    - See more at: Wages and Social Security | Economic Policy Institute

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    Re: Are Old People the ruin of this country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    what was that film where they secretly killed old people and fed them to society?
    soylent green?

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    Re: Are Old People the ruin of this country?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    soylent green?
    that's the one...great idea
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Are Old People the ruin of this country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    that's the one...great idea
    With the dog eat dog mentality being pushed on today's generation......

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    Re: Are Old People the ruin of this country?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    With the dog eat dog mentality being pushed on today's generation......
    Just have McDonalds pick it up and bring back the McRib year round.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Are Old People the ruin of this country?

    They could even push prices down on those ribs with the boom generation reaching maximum age and all. Plenty of ribs to go 'round

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    Re: Are Old People the ruin of this country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Yes, you put your money in and it will be there when you retire. I don't see anything that says it won't be. Of course no one foresaw the baby boom, which is the generation under discussion.
    But how much will that dollar be worth ?

    With over 17 trillion in debt, the only way out is to inflate our way out with printing money like we do now with nothing to back it up with and astronomical inflation.

    Oh wait a minute, the discussion is about the boomers. ####, they'll do all right.

    It's the slacker generation who are going to think they are living in a Zimbabwe poor house when they get old. They'll go nuts with everyone speaking in gibberish and who knows what kind of crap they will be fed. Probably soylent green or something like it.

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    Re: Are Old People the ruin of this country?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    soylent green?
    You beat me to it.

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    Re: Are Old People the ruin of this country?

    As I am almost 65 my views have probably changed. I did not make the rules and I did not agree with the rules. Paid into Medicare and SS for over 40 years. I think that they are lousy programs, poorly managed. If I were in charge and had to manage them, I would have increased the payroll taxes, especially on Medicare, and increased the age for full benefits, to make them self-sustaining. And I would put in means-testing. They should not cause economic hardship on the young. Unfortunately, that is not how things are. The Medicare program is sadly underfunded. Every one of the 77 million baby boomers should have c. $300,000 in a bank somewhere to cover SS and another $350,000 to cover health insurance. That would be $50 trillion saved up. Of course, we have $17.2 trillion in debt and nothing in the bank. Even that Clinton "surplus" that people like to talk about was only because SS is off the books and we had a surplus when he was President because the Baby Boomers were in their peak earning years. Instead of borrow from China, we borrowed from the SS fund and our debt went up every year.

    I never wanted these programs and I never demanded more money or lower retirement age but at this point the country probably should keep it's word.

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