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Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

Do You like this version of "America The Beautiful?"

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This is absolutely retarded. EVERY country has a primary language. We should not change anything at all, except to enforce the laws we have regarding immigration, instead of having politicians and citizens encouraging law breaking.
 
sangha said:
It has far more to support it (ie all of our history) than your speculation, which has nothing to support it.
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And where in our nation's history have native populations ever been in blatant decline while immigration surged? :roll:

Immigrant populations will only assimilate if they have a pressing reason to do so. As the proportion of our overall population they constitute continues to rise, those reasons will begin to evaporate more and more.

You think Lebanon's problems are due to immigration?
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Lebanon's population switched over from being majority Christian, to majority Muslim, in less than 100 years. This resulted in ethnic and political tensions which eventually escalated into full scale war.

Demographic shift is always problematic.
 
ChrisL said:
This is absolutely retarded. EVERY country has a primary language. We should not change anything at all, except to enforce the laws we have regarding immigration, instead of having politicians and citizens encouraging law breaking.
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FFs never really cared for one or they would have established it in the constitution. They spoke more than one language unlike the peasants who call themselves "patriots" today. Adams spoke Latin, Jefferson could understand/speak at least 6, Madison about 2. The original faith weather citizens of this country usually spoke more than one language. I for one favor a multilingual US. A single language ensures intellectual stagnation. Just look at France. How many languages do you speak Ms. Cris?
 
Hatuey said:
FFs never really cared for one or they would have established it in the constitution. They spoke more than one language unlike the peasants who call themselves "patriots" today. Adams spoke Latin, Jefferson could understand/speak at least 6, Madison about 2. The original faith weather citizens of this country usually spoke more than one language. I for one favor a multilingual US. A single language ensures intellectual stagnation. Just look at France. How many languages do you speak Ms. Cris?
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That doesn't matter. In order to work together efficiently you need to be able to communicate with one another. It's really a simple concept. Sorry it's beyond your comprehension.
 
Gathomas88 said:
And where in our nation's history have native populations ever been in blatant decline while immigration surged? :roll:
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Our native population is not in decline.

Immigrant populations will only assimilate if they have a pressing reason to do so. As the proportion of our overall population they constitute continues to rise, those reasons will begin to evaporate more and more.
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Wrong again. The # of civilians dwarfs the # of immigrants and will continue to do so.


Lebanon's population switched over from being majority Christian, to majority Muslim, in less than 100 years. This resulted in ethnic and political tensions which eventually escalated into full scale war.

Demographic shift is always problematic.
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So you're sticking to "Lebanon has an immigration problem" !! :lamo
 
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Oh what a politically correct commercial. And the reason that would make me want to buy their product is?
 
Gathomas88 said:
And where in our nation's history have native populations ever been in blatant decline while immigration surged? :roll:

Immigrant populations will only assimilate if they have a pressing reason to do so. As the proportion of our overall population they constitute continues to rise, those reasons will begin to evaporate more and more.



Lebanon's population switched over from being majority Christian, to majority Muslim, in less than 100 years. This resulted in ethnic and political tensions which eventually escalated into full scale war.

Demographic shift is always problematic.
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Excellent, excellent point! Really, these things are just common sense which so many people seem to be lacking. Too bad they can't teach that.
 
Hatuey said:
FFs never really cared for one or they would have established it in the constitution. They spoke more than one language unlike the peasants who call themselves "patriots" today. Adams spoke Latin, Jefferson could understand/speak at least 6, Madison about 2. The original faith weather citizens of this country usually spoke more than one language. I for one favor a multilingual US. A single language ensures intellectual stagnation. Just look at France. How many languages do you speak Ms. Cris?
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You like to make up a lot of stuff, don't you?:lamo
 
Gathomas88 said:
The Irish, Italians, and other European groups were "assimilated" within two or three generations. The latest wave of Latin immigration has been going on for almost that long already, and shows no such signs of integrating into our mainstream culture.

There was never any ridiculous talk of becoming a "bi-lingual" nation when those earlier waves of immigrants arrived on our shores either.
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Actually they were fully assimilated with in one generation and almost all abandoned their loyalty to there mother country and became loyal Americans.

It takes Mexican immigrants three generations to just be proficient in English and five generation to lose the accent and fully assimilate into American society. Many second and third generation Americans of Mexican decent still look at them selfs as being Mexicans first before being an American.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Absolute nonsense with nothing whatsoever to back it up. :roll:
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Except...

Are People Who Speak More Than One Language Smarter?

Researchers presented their newest studies last month at a meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. The latest evidence shows that being bilingual does not necessarily make people smarter. But researcher Ellen Bialystok says it probably does make you better at certain skills.

ELLEN BIALYSTOK: "Imagine driving down the highway. There’s many things that could capture your attention and you really need to be able to monitor all of them. Why would bilingualism make you any better at that?"

And the answer, she says, is that bilingual people are often better at controlling their attention -- a function called the executive control system.
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Why learn a foreign language? Benefits of bilingualism - Telegraph

Speaking a foreign language improves the functionality of your brain by challenging it to recognise, negotiate meaning, and communicate in different language systems. This skill boosts your ability to negotiate meaning in other problem-solving tasks as well.

Multilingual people, especially children, are skilled at switching between two systems of speech, writing, and structure. According to a study from the Pennsylvania State University, this “juggling” skill makes them good multitaskers, because they can easily switch between different structures. In one study, participants used a driving simulator while doing separate, distracting tasks at the same time. The research found that people who spoke more than one language made fewer errors in their driving.

Educators often liken the brain to a muscle, because it functions better with exercise. Learning a language involves memorising rules and vocabulary, which helps strengthen that mental “muscle.” This exercise improves overall memory, which means that multiple language speakers are better at remembering lists or sequences. Studies show that bilinguals are better at retaining shopping lists, names, and directions.

According to a study from the University of Chicago, bilinguals tend to make more rational decisions. Any language contains nuance and subtle implications in its vocabulary, and these biases can subconsciously influence your judgment. Bilinguals are more confident with their choices after thinking it over in the second language and seeing whether their initial conclusions still stand up.

A study from Spain’s University of Pompeu Fabra revealed that multilingual people are better at observing their surroundings. They are more adept at focusing on relevant information and editing out the irrelevant. They’re also better at spotting misleading information. Is it any surprise that Sherlock Holmes and Hercule Poirot are skilled polyglots?
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Speaking Two Languages Makes You Smarter

"The collective evidence from a number of such studies suggests that the bilingual experience improves the brain's so-called executive function -- a command system that directs the attention processes that we use for planning, solving problems and performing various other mentally demanding tasks."
"The key difference between bilinguals and monolinguals may be more basic: a heightened ability to monitor the environment."
"In a study comparing German-Italian bilinguals with Italian monolinguals on monitoring tasks, Mr. Costa and his colleagues found that the bilingual subjects not only performed better, but they also did so with less activity in parts of the brain involved in monitoring, indicating that they were more efficient at it."
"Bilingualism's effects also extend into the twilight years. In a recent study of 44 elderly Spanish-English bilinguals, scientists ... found that individuals with a higher degree of bilingualism ... were more resistant than others to the onset of dementia and other symptoms of Alzheimer's disease: the higher the degree of bilingualism, the later the age of onset."
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But different languages represent the world differently. For instance, in Italian there are two colours corresponding to the English blue: celeste is light (literally: sky-coloured) blue, and blu is dark blue, similar to the distinction between pink and red. So when an English speaker learns Italian he must learn to think about colours differently in order to use the correct word.

Professor Vivian Cook, Newcastle University (pictured), and Dr Benedetta Bassetti, University of York, are editors of Language and Bilingual Cognition (Psychology Press, 2011) and have spent several years investigating the benefits of knowing two languages.

“We already knew that learning another language improves our knowledge of our mother tongue, and thanks to the work of Professor Ellen Bialystok and others, we also knew that bilingualism has positive effects on the brain at both ends of life,” said Professor Cook.

“Young children develop theory of mind earlier if they know two languages, and in older people, bilingualism can postpone the onset of dementia.”

However, the researchers wanted to take this a step further to see if knowing two specific languages could actually be a form of ‘mind-training’, and discovered that much research shows that being bilingual did literally change the way people see the world.
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Check...mate?
 
A common language is an essential element of any culture - and obviously so - as that is the means of communication and a sense of unity.

If anyone can give an advantage of people being incapable of communicating with each other, explain what that advantage is?

The inability of people to communication with each other is a great handicap to a society and inherently insures isolate and conflict of various peoples based upon their language.

Because of the huge Spanish speaking population obviously government has to deal with those who only speak Spanish. But required English language courses in school also is a necessity.
 
ChrisL said:
That doesn't matter. In order to work together efficiently you need to be able to communicate with one another. It's really a simple concept. Sorry it's beyond your comprehension.
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Work efficiently? For whom? Are we a hive mind now? Look, I know that when your post gets picked apart you no longer want to play. However, the fact remains that people use English as they need to. Millions of people get by every single day with the same methods of communication and networking others have used. That's not going to change by imposing laws on language. What are we? Quebec? You never answered though: How many languages do you speak other than English? If it's only English, it would explain why you have such a limited vocabulary.
 
Hatuey said:
Work efficiently? For whom? Are we a hive mind now? Look, I know that when your post gets picked apart you no longer want to play. However, the fact remains that people use English as they need to. Millions of people get by every single day with the same methods of communication and networking others have used. That's not going to change by imposing laws on language. What are we? Quebec?
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No they aren't getting by. They are living in poverty. Apparently you missed my link from earlier. Maybe you should educate yourself before you post.
 
joko104 said:
You like to make up a lot of stuff, don't you?:lamo
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I'll bite. The FFs didn't speak more than one language? ;) C'man Joko. Tell us they only spoke English ;) - I dare ya.
 
sangha said:
Our native population is not in decline.
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Wrong, as usual. :lol:

‘First time' in history: White deaths outnumber births in US

Wrong again. The # of civilians dwarfs the # of immigrants and will continue to do so.
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Are you unfamiliar with the concept of a "trend?" :roll:

Latino children to make up bigger share of population by 2050, study says

So you're sticking to "Lebanon has an immigration problem" !! :lamo
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So you're sticking to blindly ignoring the facts surrounding Lebanese demographic shift!! :lamo
 
ChrisL said:
No they aren't getting by. They are living in poverty.
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Living in poverty is getting by in modern day America. Even for English speaking Americans. Actually, even English speaking immigrants live in poverty. It's why we have thousands of Jamaicans and Africans driving cabs in NYC/LA. Again, this is absolutely normal and not contrary to historical patterns. First generation immigrants? Poor and hard working. It doesn't how much they pretend they assimilate. 2nd generation? Better off. :shrug: It may do you some good to pick up some books on immigration patterns.
 
APACHERAT said:
Those are white kids trying to be black.

Black rappers laugh their way to the bank because of stupid white boys.
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the Leastie boys?
 
ChrisL said:
Excellent, excellent point! Really, these things are just common sense which so many people seem to be lacking. Too bad they can't teach that.
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Yea... "Common sense" really isn't high on too many Liberals' priority lists, apparently. :lol:
 
Gathomas88 said:
Wrong, as usual. :lol:

‘First time' in history: White deaths outnumber births in US
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Ahh, I see now. You weren't referring to americans. You were talking about white people.

Very revealing



Are you unfamiliar with the concept of a "trend?" :roll:

Latino children to make up bigger share of population by 2050, study says
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Are you familiar with the concept that latino children can be americans?



So you're sticking to blindly ignoring the facts surrounding Lebanese demographic shift!! :lamo
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No, I'm wisely noting that Lebanon does not have an immigration problem.
 
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