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Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

Do You like this version of "America The Beautiful?"


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Not so. Certain immigrants are exempt from that requirement.

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Interesting especially the part about length of residence in the US. I don't see what some peoples issue with this is, America was founded by immigrants who all came through Ellis island and didn't speak a lick of English. Americas diversity is something all Americans should be proud of.
 
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Interesting especially the part about length of residence in the US. I don't see what people issue you with this is, America was founded by immigrants who all came through Ellis island and didn't speak a lick of English. Americas diversity is something all Americans should be proud of.

Some of us are. I just don't get the hate.
 
I think I read into it exactly what was meant; "we're all Americans, we simply speak different languages, and have different cultures."

Again, that's fine. What I object to is the notion that this is a desirable thing in and of itself. Assimilation, and the unity it creates, should be the goal, not "multiculturalism," and the ethnic factionalism in which it always inevitably results.

I don't think the ad itself was overly political. I was simply uncomfortable with its premise.

Would you be more comfortable if you found out that everyone singing in the commercial was bi-lingual and did know the words in English also?
 
Funny how more and more English speaking Americans need subtitles on television. You can't understand a word they say - in English!

I know right. I actually don't have a problem understanding Southern accents. My problem is with some Scottish accents. I just stare at them dumbfounded half the time wondering what the feck they're saying. :lol:
 
Lol. Yeah, you're right. Switzerland and Canada are totally ineffective, unproductive countries. :cool:

Canada's an odd country to cite given the thorn the independence movement has been over the past 30-40 years.
 
Coke forgot what side its bread is buttered on. It just reinforced the sideways thinking that you can come to America and still be whatever you were before you got here and don't need to learn our language.
Buh by Coke, you lost customers.
 
I'm glad they only did 1 verse. No true American knows the other 3 verses.
 
I know right. I actually don't have a problem understanding Southern accents. My problem is with some Scottish accents. I just stare at them dumbfounded half the time wondering what the feck they're saying. :lol:

 
Interesting especially the part about length of residence in the US. I don't see what some peoples issue with this is, America was founded by immigrants who all came through Ellis island and didn't speak a lick of English. Americas diversity is something all Americans should be proud of.

Probably most are but in some there's a fear of the unknown that makes them value uniformity over diversity. That's part of what 'conservative' means.
A Best Western hotel in Prague or Bangkok would look the same, and have the same menu, as one in Des Moines, Iowa.
 
Probably most are but in some there's a fear of the unknown that makes them value uniformity over diversity.
A Best Western hotel in Prague or Bangkok would look the same, and have the same menu, as one in Des Moines, Iowa.

While the hysterics are a bit much, I'm always lost on why people always assume that promotion of things like a national language and cultural assimilation are always dismissed by some as borderline bigots and xenophobes
 
While the hysterics are a bit much, I'm always lost on why people always assume that promotion of things like a national language and cultural assimilation are always dismissed by some as borderline bigots and xenophobes

I don't know, I hadn't noticed that dismissal or the assumption.
 
No it doesn't, not even close.
Are we speaking the same language?


Yes. You dismissed concerns about such things as xenophobia.
 
It wasn't my favorite but I liked it. I thought it was a nice reminder that we're a nation of immigrants.
 
Not so. Certain immigrants are exempt from that requirement.

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Wow, thanks for that. I always was under the impression that the abillity to speak the predominant language of the country was a default requirement. Will be helpful to know for all future discussions of how our immigration system needs to be changed.

Interesting especially the part about length of residence in the US. I don't see what some peoples issue with this is, America was founded by immigrants who all came through Ellis island and didn't speak a lick of English. Americas diversity is something all Americans should be proud of.

I don't see what some peoples issues with this is, America was founded on the backs of slaves who all came through on cramped boats and didn't have a lick of freedom. Americas enslavement of people is something all Americans should be proud of.

Does that sound ridiculous? Yes, yes it does...becuase simply appealing to "It was something that happened at one point in our countries history" as your argument is a poor one. The reality is that the contextual situation of 200+ years ago and of today within this country are SUBSTANTIALLY different and acting as if what was best of the country then is best for the country now is ridiculous. The fact we at one time were flooding in any and every immigrant we could get ahold of in no way, shape, or form should impact our immigration policies 200 years later. I do think the diversity within the country is ONE thing to be proud of about it and to celebrate, but it should be celebrated in consert with other things such as our shared history/heritage/culture.
 
It was rather sweet and beautiful.

All this deep, somewhat contrived, interpreting of a few folks singing one of our 'binding' songs in the language of their old homelands is silly. It did move me. But I have always found it difficult to stand stone still rendering a hand salute as the flag is raised during the "Star Spangled Banner", a song so few of us can sing, found it very difficult to stand stone still because I always seem to have a tear or two running down my face and the urge to wipe them off is overwhelming.

Some folks just need to chill out and look for reasons to get along rather than bitch about every little damn thing they can think of!

People from around the world built this country, it is nice to remember that from time to time and marvel how well we do all get along compared to many other nations. :peace
 
Yes. You dismissed concerns about such things as xenophobia.

Ohfercryingoutloud.
Alright, you tell me, what makes someone value uniformity over diversity?
 
Interesting especially the part about length of residence in the US. I don't see what some peoples issue with this is,
America was founded by immigrants who all came through Ellis island and didn't speak a lick of English.
Americas diversity is something all Americans should be proud of.

Theme of the thread aside, let me just say ... What????
 
Ohfercryingoutloud.
Alright, you tell me, what makes someone value uniformity over diversity?

I didn't realize I had to either embrace diversity entirely or accept uniformity in all things. Who knows, maybe the way you look at the question is overly simplistic and meant to indulge your similarly characterized political views?
 
Dirt with plants on it is definitely not uniquely American.

Most republics have protections of individual rights, most have market economies, many are nations of immigrants, many are quite diverse..... We invented National Parks. We invented the concept of protected wilderness. Our land is what makes us different. That is what most people that came here in the first 150 years of our history saw, a land. Our land is our culture.
 
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Who said that??

Allen West, I quoted him in the same post you quoted.

I'm an immigrant to Germany, and I promise you if I stood up and sung their national anthem or a patriotically German song in English most Germans would be highly offended.

Being an immigrant means learning your host nation's language and being respectful of their customs. This ad wasn't atrocious, just poor taste.

This isn't Germany, someone singing America the Beautiful in Spanish, Chinese, German, whatever is utilizing their 1st amendment rights no differently than someone singing it in English.

America not is following a set of cultural and life choices; but having the freedom to choose whatever cultural or lifestyle you want while affording others the same freedom
 
Allen West, I quoted him in the same post you quoted.



This isn't Germany, someone singing America the Beautiful in Spanish, Chinese, German, whatever is utilizing their 1st amendment rights no differently than someone singing it in English.

America not is following a set of cultural and life choices; but having the freedom to choose whatever cultural or lifestyle you want while affording others the same freedom

Did you seriously just bring up the 1st amendment? Did I, or anyone, say they should be arrested and thrown in jail? Do you always jump to strawman hyperbole? All I said was that it was poor taste to take a patriotically American song and sing it in a foreign language. It's a lot like Borat's national anthem parody at the rodeo.
 
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