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Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

Do You like this version of "America The Beautiful?"


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Everyone, if incidents like the Trayvon Martin shooting, or the rampant cartel activity and gang violence along our Southwestern border are any indication.

Seriously? You are bringing Trayvon Martin into this conversation? And why is that? Apparently, according to most conservatives, Trayvon Martin was just a problem that needed to be solved. He was the problem, Zimmerman was the solution.

If you are going to be bringing stuff like this to the table, let's you and I just keep to talking about movies and nothing else. :lol:
 
The thing about multiculturalism is that the only culture you're allowed to disapprove of is your own.
 
I was planning on taking Spanish in college, but my commanding officer wasn't having any of it.

He basically told me, "you need to learn either Arabic, Russian, or Chinese if you ever want to get a decent job in your line of work."

I chose Russian, because it had the easiest alphabet and pronunciation of the three. :lol:


Russians, I think were encouraged in school to learn english during the cold war? I know I'd have to drink a pint of vodka and smoke a cigarrette before I attempted anything other than Das Vadanya.
 
Seriously? You are bringing Trayvon Martin into this conversation? And why is that? Apparently, according to most conservatives, Trayvon Martin was just a problem that needed to be solved. He was the problem, Zimmerman was the solution.

A third of our population basically didn't care about the guilt of the accused or the impartial functioning of our justice system at all. They only cared that they perceived one of their own as being wronged, and many of them threatened to go on a rampage if they didn't get the result they wanted.

That kind of "us vs them" thinking is simply toxic to a society.

Again, do you think anyone would have gotten so worked up about the issue if an Italian-American man had shot a Polish-American boy under similar circumstances?

If you are going to be bringing stuff like this to the table, let's you and I just keep to talking about movies and nothing else. :lol:

That might be a good idea. :lol:
 
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What people? The 14 million Mexican immigrants? Because I'm sure that's what we are talking about here. Nobody cares if the French come over, or the Canadians, but dammit, let a bunch of Mexicans come in, or those damn Cubans, and it's all over. The country's shot. :roll:

And how do you know that they are illiterate? English is one of the hardest languages in the world to learn. Maybe they are trying, but having a hard time with it.

Has anyone mentioned a specific nationality here? I know that I haven't, and I don't think I like your accusatory tone either.

Yes, they are basically illiterate if they cannot read, write or speak English. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but those are just facts.

If they can't speak a lick of English, they are more than likely illegal immigrants. The citizenship test is in English because it is supposed to be a requirement to become a citizen. What exactly are you suggesting anyways?
 
Russians, I think were encouraged in school to learn english during the cold war? I know I'd have to drink a pint of vodka and smoke a cigarrette before I attempted anything other than Das Vadanya.

Yea... They're kind of an odd bunch to say the least. :lol:

They're certainly friendly enough once you get to know them, but they tend to be kind of somber, reserved, and abrupt by our standards.
 
There is a word for people who speak two languages ...
...Bi-lingual
There is a word for people who speak many languages ...
...Multi-lingual
There is even a word for people who speak only one language ...
..American
 
Yea... They're kind of an odd bunch to say the least. :lol:

They're certainly friendly enough once you get to know them, but they tend to be kind of somber, reserved, and abrupt by our standards.

Sadly though, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else that didn't have English as their primary language. That leaves, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Australia, New Zealand and a few Islands. My old brain just couldn't adapt enough for me to learn everything again.
 
My parents taught me more actual French (dirty words). The school wanted us to learn to spell before we spoke, stupid.

I had a friend who took 5 years of Spanish and can't remember much. I love certain things from other cultures, especially food variety, clothing styles, music and other stuff. Their language just isn't one of them.

I have no problem with people being proud of their heritage, celebrating their own holidays, making their own kind of food, etc. I appreciate all of those things too, and I think most people do. I totally agree that it makes things more interesting, and we have a lot of little communities in America like that. Little Italy, China Town, etc.

I just think it is utterly ridiculous to expect a society to cater to the immigrants it accepts into the country. People might not like it, but there have to be some rules or there are consequences. A person who is planning on moving to the United States should have a compulsory understanding of the language.

I can't imagine going to a country where I couldn't communicate with anyone. I think that would totally suck! :lol:
 
Sadly though, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else that didn't have English as their primary language. That leaves, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Australia, New Zealand and a few Islands. My old brain just couldn't adapt enough for me to learn everything again.

Eh. I think I could swing Germany (for obvious reasons). :mrgreen:

I'm not sure if I could live somewhere too vastly different from the Anglosphere, however.
 
Has anyone mentioned a specific nationality here? I know that I haven't, and I don't think I like your accusatory tone either.

Yes, they are basically illiterate if they cannot read, write or speak English. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but those are just facts.

If they can't speak a lick of English, they are more than likely illegal immigrants. The citizenship test is in English because it is supposed to be a requirement to become a citizen. What exactly are you suggesting anyways?

Can you honestly say that if 100 Frenchmen came over, you would have a problem with it?

Honestly, it's hypocritical that people are OK with some immigrants, but not others. If we are going to allow for certain nationalities, we have to allow for all of them. I am not pointing a finger at you, Chris - most people who are anti-immigration are actually anti-Mexican immigration, or anti-Cuban immigration.

I just don't know why. Europeans come over here and within 5 days, they've gotten jobs, impregnated the boss's daughter and are building a house. Mexicans come over and they are cutting the Frenchman's grass, and looking over their shoulders for immigration.

I don't understand why some is OK but not all.
 
There is a word for people who speak two languages ...
...Bi-lingual
There is a word for people who speak many languages ...
...Multi-lingual
There is even a word for people who speak only one language ...
..American

Not true. There are PLENTY of people in other countries who only speak their native languages OBVIOUSLY, hence the thread. LOL silly!
 
I have no problem with people being proud of their heritage, celebrating their own holidays, making their own kind of food, etc. I appreciate all of those things too, and I think most people do. I totally agree that it makes things more interesting, and we have a lot of little communities in America like that. Little Italy, China Town, etc.

I just think it is utterly ridiculous to expect a society to cater to the immigrants it accepts into the country. People might not like it, but there have to be some rules or there are consequences. A person who is planning on moving to the United States should have a compulsory understanding of the language.

I can't imagine going to a country where I couldn't communicate with anyone. I think that would totally suck! :lol:

Hell, most of the world is a lot more strict than we are in this regard. The requirements for citizenship in a lot of European nations, for instance, are utterly insane.
 
Can you honestly say that if 100 Frenchmen came over, you would have a problem with it?

Honestly, it's hypocritical that people are OK with some immigrants, but not others. If we are going to allow for certain nationalities, we have to allow for all of them. I am not pointing a finger at you, Chris - most people who are anti-immigration are actually anti-Mexican immigration, or anti-Cuban immigration.

I just don't know why. Europeans come over here and within 5 days, they've gotten jobs, impregnated the boss's daughter and are building a house. Mexicans come over and they are cutting the Frenchman's grass, and looking over their shoulders for immigration.

I don't understand why some is OK but not all.

I don't what you're trying to insinuate, but if they couldn't speak, read or write in English then YES. Just to be clear, I am not anti-anything here. The things I'm talking about are just logic and common sense.
 
Eh. I think I could swing Germany (for obvious reasons). :mrgreen:

I'm not sure if I could live somewhere too vastly different from the Anglosphere, however.

In high school, I badly wanted to tour Europe. They were offering field trips back then at discounted rates. But my old man, who'd been there said it was just a bunch of dirty old cities...lol

I'd still like to see some landmarks and try different wines, cheeses, desserts and whatever.
 
Hell, most of the world is a lot more strict than we are in this regard. The requirements for citizenship in a lot of European nations, for instance, are utterly insane.

Yes, but the United States is supposed to be everybody's daddy. We have to take care of everyone and coddle them like little infants. God forbid we impose any kind of inconvenience on anyone from another country, even if it is logical.
 
Can you honestly say that if 100 Frenchmen came over, you would have a problem with it?

Honestly, it's hypocritical that people are OK with some immigrants, but not others. If we are going to allow for certain nationalities, we have to allow for all of them. I am not pointing a finger at you, Chris - most people who are anti-immigration are actually anti-Mexican immigration, or anti-Cuban immigration.

I just don't know why. Europeans come over here and within 5 days, they've gotten jobs, impregnated the boss's daughter and are building a house. Mexicans come over and they are cutting the Frenchman's grass, and looking over their shoulders for immigration.

I don't understand why some is OK but not all.

The Europeans are generally skilled labor, and are viewed as being a boon to the economy as such. The Mexicans usually aren't.

They are also often illegal, and might even draw welfare benefits while paying nothing in taxes.

Personally, I don't have any problem with Latin immigrants coming to the United States. However, I do expect that they try to learn the language, and pay taxes if they are going to draw benefits.
 
In high school, I badly wanted to tour Europe. They were offering field trips back then at discounted rates. But my old man, who'd been there said it was just a bunch of dirty old cities...lol

I'd still like to see some landmarks and try different wines, cheeses, desserts and whatever.

I'd love to tour Europe some day. I think the history of those old cities is fascinating. There are many places I'd like to see.
 
In high school, I badly wanted to tour Europe. They were offering field trips back then at discounted rates. But my old man, who'd been there said it was just a bunch of dirty old cities...lol

I'd still like to see some landmarks and try different wines, cheeses, desserts and whatever.

I'd definitely recommend it if you get the chance.

Germany was actually very clean on the whole, and the people were generally welcoming and friendly. France (or, at least, Paris) was less so, but still worth the trip for the food and the landmarks.

Yes, but the United States is supposed to be everybody's daddy. We have to take care of everyone and coddle them like little infants. God forbid we impose any kind of inconvenience on anyone from another country, even if it is logical.

I think the issue is too heavily politicized, to be honest. It makes it hard for people to look at things clearly.
 
I'd love to tour Europe some day. I think the history of those old cities is fascinating. There are many places I'd like to see.

Oh yah, I'd like to but the cost for any real, decent stay is astronomical. Even some more exotic places like New Zealand, Cancun, Cozumel, Belize, Morocco and Hawaii.
 
Oh yah, I'd like to but the cost for any real, decent stay is astronomical. Even some more exotic places like New Zealand, Cancun, Cozumel, Belize, Morocco and Hawaii.

The Army paid for my plane ticket there and back, and I still wound up blowing more than 5 grand for two weeks. :lol:
 
I'd definitely recommend it if you get the chance.

Germany was actually very clean on the whole, and the people were generally welcoming and friendly. France (or, at least, Paris) was less so, but still worth the trip for the food and the landmarks.

I had an Air Force buddy in the SP's who's favorite place to be stationed was Spangdahlem. I'm half German, so maybe I'd pick up the language? Gotta admit it is one of the weirder sounding languages to me. I did pick up a few words from Hogan's Heroes. :mrgreen:
 
I had an Air Force buddy in the SP's who's favorite place to be stationed was Spangdahlem. I'm half German, so maybe I'd pick up the language? Gotta admit it is one of the weirder sounding languages to me. I did pick up a few words from Hogan's Heroes. :mrgreen:

Trust me. It's nothing compared to Russian. :lol:

I remember dozing off on the train while traveling around in Germany. In my half conscious state, I almost could've sworn everyone around me was speaking English.

It just sounded like English that I couldn't quite understand. lol
 
In high school, I badly wanted to tour Europe. They were offering field trips back then at discounted rates. But my old man, who'd been there said it was just a bunch of dirty old cities...lol

I'd still like to see some landmarks and try different wines, cheeses, desserts and whatever.

Except for Germany, your old man was right.

If you want to try the different cheeses try Wisconsin and for wine try California.

If you want authentic Mexican food, it's pretty bad, stick with Tex-Mex in America.

And what you eat in any Chinatown in America isn't what they eat in China.

Most Americans you find traveling abroad can be found eating at McDonalds.
 
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