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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I wonder why this is? They have the highest teen pregnancy rate too. I wonder why?
    Because they are predominately Catholic, which encourages big families and no birth control. As for teen pregnancy, they might have the highest, but it's certainly a problem all around.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, to be fair, we speak the same language and can communicate quite easily with one another. Personally, I don't care if they want to maintain a "separate" culture or identity. I just think it is important that they be able to communicate when it is necessary. If they want to speak in their own languages with their family members, friends, etc., I have no issue with that at all. Most people who want immigrants to have a basic understanding of the English language do not feel this way because of hatred of anyone's culture/traditions or even their language. It just makes sense is all, and it does help to unify us if only a little bit. You are basically isolating yourself from others when you won't learn the dominant language in the country in which you live.

    Well he was talking about not assimilating to american culture not about speaking English, which is what I was addressing.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That makes no sense. If they were isolated, then American culture would not be the local language and culture. Their own language and culture would be.
    They were isolated from one another, and from their homelands.

    Modern Latino immigrants are not, by and large.

    There have always been large areas with predominately Latino populations, and they have continued to assimilate.
    I thought you just claimed that "Mexican culture" has always existed in the US?

    That wouldn't be "assimilation."

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    That is taking into account death rates and life expectancy. I am sorry, but if you do the math, you are wrong on this. Any population growth calculation shows it. In fact, if we return to high rates of Hispanic immigration to this country we will have far more than 100,000,000 in 50 years.
    Prove that you factored in death rates. I want to see the calculations.

    Going off of your logic here, and the fact that Latino immigration is expected to remain more or less constant, their population growth would be massively over 100 million.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You are obviously not well traveled then.

    There is a lot of cultural differences between a Portland Hipster, New Yorker, Rust Belt Midwesterner, Plains States Farmer, Rural Southerner, Northern Non-Religious, Southern Evangelical and so on.
    I've traveled and I've met people from all over. None of them are more "alien" than a non-English speaking immigrant.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Because they are predominately Catholic, which encourages big families and no birth control. As for teen pregnancy, they might have the highest, but it's certainly a problem all around.
    Well, I think most of "white" Americans (for lack of a better term) and "black" Americans are mostly Catholic too I think (or least some form of christian). I'm not sure though, but I always thought Catholic was the dominant religion among white Americans too.

    Also, Christianity discourages premarital sex and single parenthood too. *shrugs*

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Well he was talking about not assimilating to american culture not about speaking English, which is what I was addressing.
    Oh sorry, my mistake.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I wonder why this is? They have the highest teen pregnancy rate too. I wonder why?
    Cultural reasons I suspect. I don't know. I think we have too many people in this world as it is. I think people should have less kids and adopt more. Overpopulation puts a greater burden on our environment than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Cultural reasons I suspect. I don't know. I think we have too many people in this world as it is. I think people should have less kids and adopt more. Overpopulation puts a greater burden on our environment than anything else.
    Too many CRAZY people!

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Well he was talking about not assimilating to american culture not about speaking English, which is what I was addressing.
    To be fair, I was speaking about both.

    Failure to adopt English as a primary language is a sign of failure of to adapt to the greater culture.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, I think most of "white" Americans (for lack of a better term) and "black" Americans are mostly Catholic too I think (or least some form of christian). I'm not sure though, but I always thought Catholic was the dominant religion among white Americans too.
    Protestantism is the largest religious affiliation in the United States for blacks and whites alike. It simply happens to be split up between dozens of different denominations.

    Catholicism is the largest single denomination of Christianity in the United States.

    Also, Christianity discourages premarital sex and single parenthood too. *shrugs*
    Yup. The problem is a lack of genuine religious conviction.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, I think most of "white" Americans (for lack of a better term) and "black" Americans are mostly Catholic too I think (or least some form of Christian). I'm not sure though, but I always thought Catholic was the dominant religion among white Americans too.

    Also, Christianity discourages premarital sex and single parenthood too. *shrugs*
    I don't have time to look up all the info, but I seem to remember seeing something about Catholicism being on the decline, especially practicing Catholics and from what I know African Americans are not majority Catholic at all.

    Christians and branches of that religion do typically seem to have larger than normal families.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    To be fair, I was speaking about both.

    Failure to adopt English as a primary language is a sign of failure of to adapt to the greater culture.



    Protestantism is the largest religious affiliation in the United States for blacks and whites alike. It simply happens to be split up between dozens of different denominations.

    Catholicism is the largest single denomination of Christianity in the United States.



    Yup. The problem is a lack of genuine religious conviction.
    I couldn't say. I know plenty of people that are not religious who are married and were not single parents or teen parents, and PLENTY of people who were raised in "religious" families who ended up being teen moms/single parents. I think religious people like to think that it does, but I really don't think religion itself plays a role in such things but more your upbringing and environment in general. Non-religious people can be good people too.

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