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Thread: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    If you do the math, a fertility rate of 2.4 works out to be a population growth rate of 1.3%. So if you start with a Hispanic population today of 53,000,000. You end up with a Hispanic population of 101,099,297 in 50 years and that is with no net immigration at all.

    So math shows you are wrong on that one.
    53 million to 101 million?

    Gee, that looks like almost double!!
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And you can choose to continue believing fiction
    It's not fiction. I backed my statements that Massachusetts caters to illegal immigrants. Obviously, when you are giving benefits and drivers licenses and such other things to immigrants (mostly illegal ones) who cannot speak any English (cannot read SIGNS either), that is catering to them and certainly NOT encouraging them to learn English.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You said that blacks and Latinos have the same birth rate. You were wrong, but not honest enough to admit that you were wrong.
    I said that they had roughly the same birth rate. Keep up.

    I see you still can't get the #'s right. It's 2.4, not two and 2.4 fertility rate does get them close to doubling in 50 years
    Not after you factor in death rates and all the other factors that go along with it.

    Again, for the foreseeable future, somewhere between half and a third of the growth the United States' Latino population is going to experience will be due to immigration.

    This is an undeniable fact.

    Yeah, now there's no Mexican culture in Texas or California!
    It was a marginalized minority at best; largely forced to acclimate to US cultural norms. Now, it is displacing American culture, and spreading to further areas as well.

    The only simple thing about that is that it is simply wrong.
    No, you are. If the culture in question finds its basis in another country, it is alien.

    That is all there is to it.

    This thread is not about you, but it's funny how you're using a personal anecdote after arguing that personal anecdotes are not good arguments.

    Try again.
    And it's funny how you still insist upon relying upon them yourself.

    Try again.

    Latino culture is a part of American culture. Without it, American culture wouldn't be what it is.
    Complete and total nonsense.

    The "culture" of 95% of this nation would be absolutely no different if a single Latino had never set foot in this country.

    And Latino immigrants have, and will continue, to assimilate.
    Slowly, and with difficulties that are being compounded by absurd "multicultural" ideologies like your own.

    I didn't say that it's not true. I guess you don't realize this but "Some of my best friends are (fill in the blank)" has been a classic line bigots have used to deny their bigotry. In All in the Family, Archie Bunker used to use his "friendship" with Lionel to argue that he wasn't a bigot.
    And? What's your point.

    I don't care what you think about it. It is what it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Not enough? Over 50 years?

    You do realize that 50 times the difference of .3 equals 1.5 and that's without compounding. And that to the 2, and you get 3.5 which means it's almost double the 2.1 rate of blacks, don't you?

    Wait. You don't and you think you can lecture about simple math
    Again, Sangha. Death rates and other factors take away from most of that.

    Without the effects of immigration, that Latino community might see somewhere around a 50% increase. They wouldn't see the 100% increase they're currently expecting.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    If you do the math, a fertility rate of 2.4 works out to be a population growth rate of 1.3%. So if you start with a Hispanic population today of 53,000,000. You end up with a Hispanic population of 101,099,297 in 50 years and that is with no net immigration at all.

    So math shows you are wrong on that one.
    Are you claiming that the Hispanic population is NOT the fastest growing here in the United States?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    If you do the math, a fertility rate of 2.4 works out to be a population growth rate of 1.3%. So if you start with a Hispanic population today of 53,000,000. You end up with a Hispanic population of 101,099,297 in 50 years and that is with no net immigration at all.

    So math shows you are wrong on that one.
    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    53 million to 101 million?

    Gee, that looks like almost double!!
    Again, because death rates apparently don't exist.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's not fiction. I backed my statements that Massachusetts caters to illegal immigrants. Obviously, when you are giving benefits and drivers licenses and such other things to immigrants (mostly illegal ones) who cannot speak any English (cannot read SIGNS either), that is catering to them and certainly NOT encouraging them to learn English.
    You still have no evidence that anyone has discouraged any immigrants from learning English
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You still have no evidence that anyone has discouraged any immigrants from learning English
    The things I stated in my last post DO discourage them from learning English.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    That is absurd and regardless of how diverse your friends are, its rather xenophobic. During the "coolie" system of 1800s, entire areas of cities and towns on the west coast were predominately Cantonese speaking. My step father is of German descent. He was born and grew up in a town in Kansas that was German speaking. There were Scandinavian farming communities in the upper Midwest that predominately spoke Norwegian. With every wave of immigrants over the course of our history, there have always been generational lags in adopting English as their language. This is nothing new.
    Those groups were isolated, and thus forced to adopt the local language and culture of the US to get by.

    Modern Latino immigrants really aren't facing the same kind of pressure to do so. They can effectively insulate themselves from greater American culture in many parts of the country.

    This is only going to get worse as the overall proportion of the population continues to grow.

    As to this "alien culture", I am not even sure what that is supposed to be. If you are a southerner and move up north you will bring with you an alien culture. There is no monolithic American culture, we have always been a melting pot where cultures varied greatly between regions and ethnic groups. Why do care anyway? What does it matter?
    This simply is not true. People from all regions of the United States have far more in common with one another than they do Mexicans or Latin Americans.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I said that they had roughly the same birth rate. Keep up.
    It is not roughly the same. The difference accounts for an almost doubling of population in 50 years, a calculation you stupidly denied.



    Not after you factor in death rates and all the other factors that go along with it.

    Again, for the foreseeable future, somewhere between half and a third of the growth the United States' Latino population is going to experience will be due to immigration.

    This is an undeniable fact.
    Of course it's deniable. You've posted nothing to support your inane beliefs.

    It was a marginalized minority at best; largely forced to acclimate to US cultural norms. Now, it is displacing American culture, and spreading to further areas as well.
    Wrong again. Mexican culture has been mainstream in Texas for as long as there's been a Texas.

    No, you are. If the culture in question finds its basis in another country, it is alien.
    Latino culture is not an alien culture. It is as american as apple pie, which is an imported symbol

    And it's funny how you still insist upon relying upon them yourself.
    Yes, and it's wrong when I do it, but OK when you do it, right?

    Complete and total nonsense.

    The "culture" of 95% of this nation would be absolutely no different if a single Latino had never set foot in this country.
    They were here before white people were. American culture would be very different without their influence on food, music, art, literature, etc.



    Slowly, and with difficulties that are being compounded by absurd "multicultural" ideologies like your own.
    It's not an ideology. It's reality

    The US is, and has always been, multi-cultural. Even you have acknowledged the differences in culture in different parts of the country


    And? What's your point.

    I don't care what you think about it. It is what it is.
    My point is that having friends from a certain group does mean one is not bigoted towards that group.




    Again, Sangha. Death rates and other factors take away from most of that.
    Because black people aren't affected by death rates. Only Latinos
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Again, because death rates apparently don't exist.
    They exist for all groups, including blacks who you dishonestly claimed had the same birth rate
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