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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    No, people are having a discussion
    Yes. Those statements aren't mutually exclusive.

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    I think you are just upset people are discussing things you don't like and want to play thread police
    I'll happily admit I was more interested in discussing the reactions to the advert than rehashing the US/Mexico immigration debate but I've no desire to stop other people chasing that tail if they like, in threads for that purpose.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    That is absurd and regardless of how diverse your friends are, its rather xenophobic. During the "coolie" system of 1800s, entire areas of cities and towns on the west coast were predominately Cantonese speaking. My step father is of German descent. He was born and grew up in a town in Kansas that was German speaking. There were Scandinavian farming communities in the upper Midwest that predominately spoke Norwegian. With every wave of immigrants over the course of our history, there have always been generational lags in adopting English as their language. This is nothing new.
    actually there are a few things different: one is our cultural attitude towards not adopting English is more permissive. Second is less diversity in immigration and lack of cultural and linguistic isolation

    As to this "alien culture", I am not even sure what that is supposed to be. If you are a southerner and move up north you will bring with you an alien culture. There is no monolithic American culture, we have always been a melting pot where cultures varied greatly between regions and ethnic groups. Why do care anyway? What does it matter?[/QUOTE]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    My point is that your anecdotes are worthless.
    It's not an anecdote. Massachusetts is a sanctuary state, with a segment of the population that refuses to encourage immigrants to learn English (among other things). A lot of illegal immigrants live here, and they are basically exempt from the rules and laws.

    Romney might well get tough on sanctuary cities in the future, but he didn’t when he was governor. During his tenure, at least four Massachusetts cities enacted or renewed legislation declaring themselves sanctuaries for illegal immigrants. Brookline and Cambridge reaffirmed their longtime status as sanctuary cities in so many words. Somerville and Orleans didn’t officially deem themselves ‘sanctuaries,’ but Somerville affirmed its ‘long-standing policies in support of all immigrants,’ while Orleans forbade city officials from turning in illegal immigrants without probable cause. We asked Romney’s campaign if he had acted against these cities, but they didn’t provide us with any examples. As far as we were able to determine in our own research, Romney made no attempts to penalize, censure, or cut funding to them.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I did. It's in the post you responded to and the line you directly quote above was written in response to it







    1) No, I am arguing with you because you are trying to equate two things that are not equal

    2) I am taking offense because you accused me of being racist
    You were taking offense long before I "accused you of being racist" which I didn't do. Fine, "those people" who take offense to this ad would be praising Coke's patriotism if it was all in English. If you are not one of those people, then this really shouldn't be an issue.


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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's not an anecdote. Massachusetts is a sanctuary state, with a segment of the population that refuses to encourage immigrants to learn English (among other things). A lot of illegal immigrants live here, and they are basically exempt from the rules and laws.
    Neither you nor anyone else has posted any evidence that anyone has encourage immigrants to not learn English.

    This is just another example of you insisting that fiction is fact, like the way you insisted that immigrants were required to know English.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    only when death is on the line
    That you, Mr Shawn?
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Neither you nor anyone else has posted any evidence that anyone has encourage immigrants to not learn English.

    This is just another example of you insisting that fiction is fact, like the way you insisted that immigrants were required to know English.
    Of course, you can choose to keep your head buried in the sand.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    It is irrelevant. The difference between a 2.1 fertility rate and 2.4 fertility rate is not enough to account for the differences in population growth rates we're expecting to see over the course of the next fifty years (a roughly 10% increase for African Americans vs an almost 100% increase for Latinos).

    The only possible explanation for that is the influence of immigration.
    If you do the math, a fertility rate of 2.4 works out to be a population growth rate of 1.3%. So if you start with a Hispanic population today of 53,000,000. You end up with a Hispanic population of 101,099,297 in 50 years and that is with no net immigration at all.

    So math shows you are wrong on that one.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Of course, you can choose to keep your head buried in the sand.
    And you can choose to continue believing fiction
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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