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Thread: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    they all must look the same to you too!
    PS Where was the holi celebration?
    not really, he really does look like him. Holi??
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Hispanic birth rates are higher than black birth rates in the United States. Black birth rates are 2.1 kids per black woman which is basically replacement rate, while Hispanic birth rates are 2.4 births per Hispanic woman. If you extrapolate that over 50 years it will indeed lead to a significant difference in population growth rates.

    You then have to look at how many young childbearing age Hispanic women there are versus other demographics.

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    That said, I would imagine that over the coming decades both groups birth rates will fall in line with whites and asians and their population growth rate will slow.
    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    His beliefs are so bigoted that he can't even recognize the difference between actual #'s like 2.1 and 2.4
    It is irrelevant. The difference between a 2.1 fertility rate and 2.4 fertility rate is not enough to account for the differences in population growth rates we're expecting to see over the course of the next fifty years (a roughly 10% increase for African Americans vs an almost 100% increase for Latinos).

    The only possible explanation for that is the influence of immigration.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Gee, I wonder how many more times I could have said "Massachusetts" in the post above!

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Tell you what. Post a quote where I said you were a racist. Otherwise, you're just blowing hot air.
    I did. It's in the post you responded to and the line you directly quote above was written in response to it





    So you're vociferously arguing with me because I implied that people who have that reaction are racist. Since that's not you, what's your problem?
    1) No, I am arguing with you because you are trying to equate two things that are not equal

    2) I am taking offense because you accused me of being racist

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    wow, the one is the yellow sunglasses looks very similar to one of my brothers. Weird!
    Are you Sicilian?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    not really, he really does look like him.
    I was making a joke about ethnic groups all looking the same to outsiders

    Holi??
    the picture looks like it's from a holi festival. It's an Indian holiday

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The fact that they represent an alien cultural influence in the United States is also undeniable. Their presence is forcing Americans to learn Spanish just as it is forcing Latinos immigrants to learn English. No other group of immigrants has had that impact.
    That is absurd and regardless of how diverse your friends are, its rather xenophobic. During the "coolie" system of 1800s, entire areas of cities and towns on the west coast were predominately Cantonese speaking. My step father is of German descent. He was born and grew up in a town in Kansas that was German speaking. There were Scandinavian farming communities in the upper Midwest that predominately spoke Norwegian. With every wave of immigrants over the course of our history, there have always been generational lags in adopting English as their language. This is nothing new.

    As to this "alien culture", I am not even sure what that is supposed to be. If you are a southerner and move up north you will bring with you an alien culture. There is no monolithic American culture, we have always been a melting pot where cultures varied greatly between regions and ethnic groups. Why do care anyway? What does it matter?
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
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    It's hardly like they're popping out 5 or 6 children per woman like the Indians were doing thirty years ago here.
    You said that blacks and Latinos have the same birth rate. You were wrong, but not honest enough to admit that you were wrong.

    A population simply does not double in less than 50 years on a 2 children per woman fertility rate alone. That is due to contribution made by immigration.
    I see you still can't get the #'s right. It's 2.4, not two and 2.4 fertility rate does get them close to doubling in 50 years


    Which is why we conquered those areas, and displaced their local cultures, replacing them with our own.
    Yeah, now there's no Mexican culture in Texas or California!

    The simple fact of the matter is that Latino immigrants are not "culturally American" and never have been. They are alien.
    The only simple thing about that is that it is simply wrong.

    I don't speak Italian or German even as a second language, and I don't fly an Irish flag outside of my home.
    This thread is not about you, but it's funny how you're using a personal anecdote after arguing that personal anecdotes are not good arguments.

    Try again.



    Again, it's our country. It's our culture.

    If they're not willing to "play ball," they frankly have no business being here.

    Every other immigrant group seems past and present seemed to understand this basic fact well enough. What makes Latinos so special that they need to be deliberately coddled so that they don't "lose their culture?"

    I'm sorry, but I really couldn't care less about their culture. When they move to a new country, it should be expected to change.
    Latino culture is a part of American culture. Without it, American culture wouldn't be what it is.

    And Latino immigrants have, and will continue, to assimilate.




    Believe what you want.

    I've got pics, so it most assured did happen.
    I didn't say that it's not true. I guess you don't realize this but "Some of my best friends are (fill in the blank)" has been a classic line bigots have used to deny their bigotry. In All in the Family, Archie Bunker used to use his "friendship" with Lionel to argue that he wasn't a bigot.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    My point is that in Massachusetts, there is a large segment of the population in Massachusetts that wants to coddle illegal immigrants. This shows in their economic situations, their level of employment (or lack of), and non-English speakers are very common here in Massachusetts.

    What's your point?
    My point is that your anecdotes are worthless.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    It is irrelevant. The difference between a 2.1 fertility rate and 2.4 fertility rate is not enough to account for the differences in population growth rates we're expecting to see over the course of the next fifty years (a roughly 10% increase for African Americans vs an almost 100% increase for Latinos).

    The only possible explanation for that is the influence of immigration.
    Not enough? Over 50 years?

    You do realize that 50 times the difference of .3 equals 1.5 and that's without compounding. And that to the 2, and you get 3.5 which means it's almost double the 2.1 rate of blacks, don't you?

    Wait. You don't and you think you can lecture about simple math
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